Learnings from one of my favorite Trader & Youtuber Mr. Subasish Pani @subasish_pani of 𝗣𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗦𝘁𝗼𝗰𝗸𝘀 fame from the F2F interview conducted by @Vivbajaj Sir of @elearnmarkets fame
Time for a thread 🧵
• After being a successful in cash, futures & option buying in intraday Subasish is currently a Positional Option Seller
• Probably an only option seller who sells Deep ITM options
• How he reads the Price Action on charts
• Example using Dec 3, 2021 BNF charts📉📊
• Logic for strike selection i.e. Deep ITM strike
• When he senses that the downtrend will start he will pull the trigger with a small SL
• He'll choose the strike of the immediate support (for a downtrend)
• How SL is determined for the trade
• He understands the market moves pretty, so usually captures at the start of a trend and that benefits him as can take that trade placing a small SL
• Even if the SL gets hit, its always small
• Subasish's Approach in option selling is; eat like an elephant 🐘 and shit like a chicken 🐔
• Why he prefers deep ITM instead of OTM
• He places his entry like a scalper and once it is in his favor he'll convert that trade into positional
• He wants a better R/R
• He prefers his trades to be aligned with the trend
• He doesn't play for just theta decay he plays for the direction or delta
• He wanted to build a system in option selling, wherein he can deploy not just 100% of his capital but can also avail leverage
• Prefers to use leverage given his conviction in the trend
• He carefully observed how market moves
• He doesn't believe in fire fighting, he would rather take a small SL and get out of the trade rather than fighting with the market
• He utilized his strengths to build a system, his strength is to capture the trend
• Upmoves are usually slow whereas falls are always ferocious
• Subasish has made a major chunk of his fortune in the downtrend (Covid Crash) and plays aggressively on the downside
• Current correction has also proved the same, he made a Rs. 1cr. in a week (positional)
• Intraday Set-up up for option sellers on an expiry day
• Example in layman terms
• Drawing parallel of the earlier example with the stock market for option selling
• Identify the weaker leg and simply short it
• On the day of expiry never to wait for the options to go to 0, as usually the move post 2.30-3pm can convert a deep OTM into ATM
• Usage of an indicator for beginners
• Simple Set up
• Needs to be followed with discipline
• Pure intraday set up only to be applied on an expiry, it can screw you if you try the same in positional
• Innovators always need to risk something
• A mature trader is a one who refines his setup after merging his experiences with his personal forte
• Despite a Drawdown, he hasnt given up yet, as he realizes that for anything to work it takes time as one needs to work on its nuances as well
• Key takeaway, if he doesn't give up despite having so many other tricks under his hat, we also shouldn't give up that easily
• Always check the broader trend of the market
• Amateurs open the market, and the professionals close it, so focus on BO & BD's post 12.30 pm
• Never buy in first pullback
• Focus on the larger trend, usually first pullbacks will be an opportunity for the sellers
• Understand the psychology from the perspective of buyers & sellers instead of mere candlestick
• Try to analyse who gets rewarded and who gets trapped and what will they do, and accordingly take action
• Fresh issue of Rs.8300 crs. + offer for sale (OFS) of 10000 crs.
• OFS: The proceeds goes to the existing shareholders who are taking an exit & not to the company
• Fresh Issue: Proceeds goes to the company of which Rs. 6300 crs. to be utilized for inorganic growth i.e. acquisitions & balance Rs. 2000 crs. for General corporate purpose
Few weeks ago @Ronak_Unadkat Sir conducted an exclusive session for me & @adityatodmal to explain how he trades.
He was kind enough to share all his trade strategies and was patient enough to answer our doubts.
Thought of making a 🧵for the benefit of the larger audience here.
@Ronak_Unadkat Sir's Option Selling Logic 🧵:
• Reversals in Intraday Option selling
• Strike Selection & SL
• Hedging for any Black Swan Event
• Positional Option selling
• Ratio Spreads
• How to manage the positions
• Capital mgmt
How to play reversals
• Always look at the chart as a starting point
• Spot the Swing low
• Sell Strikes 300-400 points below that swing low
• Buy a proper hedge
Previous week: Bearish engulfing pattern the confirmation of the same will kick in when BNF starts to trade below 39115. This week was an inside candle