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7 Jan, 5 tweets, 3 min read
Swindon of the Southern League enjoyed a big FA Cup upset win against Man City in their first ever meeting (1910). But a 1-1 draw in 1930 led to a 10-1 defeat in the replay. And they lost 7-0 in 1953 too.
Swindon's 4th round (quarter-final) win over Man City in 1910 got them to the first of their two FA Cup semi-finals, losing to Newcastle who beat Barnsley in the final. Swindon got to the semi-final again in 1912, but lost to Barnsley who won the FA Cup.
The 1910 FA Cup run led to Barnsley and Swindon being invited to Paris to promote football to the French by playing for the Dubonnet Cup at the Parc des Princes. (The organisers had wanted to repeat the FA Cup final, but Newcastle could not make it). Swindon won the Dubonnet Cup
The Dubonnet Cup was enormous, guarded by a gendarme with a drawn sword. The organisers were delighted with the crowd of 7000 in the rain in Paris. From Barnsley FC historian David Wood.
swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2015/febr…
The Dubonnet Cup. After the Swindon v Barnsley inaugural tournament, Clapton Orient beat Millwall, and Fulham beat QPR in the 1911 and 1912 finals in Paris. The French Football Federation was founded in 1919.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubonnet_…

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