These 2 clips are very good [but pretty subtle] examples of what I refer to as the relatively subtle difference between "squatting" vs. "sitting". Let me try to explain this subtle difference. And it CAN POTENTIALLY effect the swing [unload].
1] Note the basic initial set-up difference. On the left he is creating greater knee flexion/trunk tilt; on the right he starts with less knee flexion and less trunk tilt.
2] But from there as he starts to move [stride], on the left the first action is more knee flexion[subtle] --what I refer to as "squating"; as opposed to "pushing the hips back" via HIP FLEXION seen in the right clip.
3] How to best "see " this difference? Look at the hip movement [from leg lift to foot plant]. Comparatively the hips [right clip] move more AWAY from the plate. AND the head [right clip] moves more "over" the plate.
4]In other words [right clip] the SPINE angle tilt is more pronounced ,i.e., the tilt angle of the spine/trunk is greater and the HEAD is FURTHER from the knees [draw a line from the head to the ground to better see this].
5] Simply put, in the right clip the hips are "leading" ,i.e., the more proximal segment [the hips] --as opposed to the more distal knee flexion [left clip]---STARTS the movement as the lead foot starts to lift.
6]Based on both my understanding of biomechanics in the context of potential gravitational effects, AND thousands of hrs. doing specific exercises under load, this better leading of the hips MATTERS!
7]Why? Well, for numerous reasons. First off, in terms of creating optimal dynamic stability within a gravitational context, pushing the hips back and tilting the upper trunk more forwardly, best "distributes" the center mass [the trunk] against gravitational effects.
8]In effect, you are displacing part of the center mass "east" [hips away from the plate], which is "offset" ,so to speak , by the upper trunk going "west."
9] This kind of distribution [offset] does NOT happen as effectively when you squat [flex the knees/trunk tilt does not change].
10] Leading with the hips---wherein the tilt angle of the trunk changes ----sets up the potential for a better SWING PLANE, ie., how the shoulder line/lead arm/ barrel align at the start of the swing and into contact.
11] There are a number of ways to infer this in looking at both clips:1] Note how close the back arm elbow stays with the back side oblique in the second clip.
12] And 2]: Note [post contact] as to how well the back arms "follows" the rotational plane of the shoulder rotation in the right clip vs. the left clip.
13] Furthermore, the right clip is an ex. of what I refer to as very effective posterior chain loading via the "dead lift posture."[Vs. a more squatting kind of loading/posture].
14]Simply put [but in person I can explain/demonstrate this for at least an hour!], this dead lift-like posture is, all things considered, THE optimal postural/loading dynamic that can yield, optimal UNLOADING.
15]On my website over the yrs. I have countless ex. e.g., Bonds, Griffey, Aaron, Manny Ramirez, etc., et al.
16]But arguably my favorite is Bo Jackson: Here's one clip. Note the relatively straight legs and relatively pronounced trunk tilt as he starts to lift the lead leg:
17]Here's a good short demo of the dead lift action and "pushing the hips back" to initiate the tilt angle of the spine/trunk [go to about 1:39] to really see this:
18]Again, based on everything I know, the dead lift-like loading vs. a more squat -like loading better facilitates better control of the center mass when striding, better facilitates hip/shoulder rotation, and better sets up a good swing plane.
1]"Nothing special about his windup". I recently stated along the lines that...."loading is only as effective as it helps to UNLOAD." Paul, similarly, is hinting at the fact that is NOT primarily about loading. More fundamentally, it is about how one unloads.
2]Yes, of course, this DOES relate to loading. But I think the fundamental point is: One cannot NECESSSARILY conclude as to how one is going to unload....
Probably close to 20 yrs. ago is when I first ran across the concept of the "serape effect." This preceded finding Tom Myers's "Anatomy Trains", and along the same time I found Mel Siff's "PNF" exercise programs, and preceded finding "biotensegrity models."
ALL of which I find related in the sense that they all helped me to better understand how to think about, as I sometimes simply phrase it, "how the body works" in the specific context of throwing/swinging.
Here's a link I cited and talked about quite a few yrs. back about the serape effect:
I've talked about this before. I think the best physiological/biomechanical explanation is that the back leg action [post contact] is a REACTION to the upper trunk's [arms/bat included] angular momentum.
Said another way: It is a function of the distal component [the back leg] attempt to create greater gyroscopic stability, ie., as the as the trunk leans forward and as the arms/bat go "out and around" to get to the low/outside contact point, the back leg tries...
....to "offset" that action by essentially reacting in the opposite direction.
As always, Paul's comments are very thoughtful and relevant. I want to try to add some context here as regards how to effectively deal with this "disconnection" problem as a teacher.
By "disconnection" I mean that the flawed movement that one is trying to change is a function of a movement pattern that has been done MANY times, and as such it has become AUTOMATED ,ie., not consciously derived/executed.
It may have initially been a function of some type of explicit instruction, eg., "stay back," "swing down", "make your hands quicker",etc., et al, but regardless as to the origin, eventually [via trial/error/repetition], the movement becomes tacitly expressed.
To add some context to my following comments, I would suggest looking at some of my ending comments about motor learning theories in my most recent threadreader post.
Let me say at the outset that I am no novice to books on motor learning/motor control THEORIES [my emphasis because I want to denote that MUCH of the research is simply that ----theory---as opposed to well established physics views on how things work, so to speak].
[Yes I do realize that various aspects of quantum mechanics has muddied the waters, so to speak, but for now I'll simply assert that Newtonian physics is more grounded relative to motor learning theories].
Before I start, I want to thank "Hitters Edge" for putting this up. The real value of a clip like this is that it gives you a rapid compilation of a single hitter swinging at a variety of pitch speeds and locations.
Thus allowing a quick comparison and analysis of the kinds of similarities and differences --within 1 great hitter---that can be gleaned.
Let me add a little context to this clip by saying that these are most certainly not the first clips of Kenny that I have tried to analyze. My guess would be that I have spent at least 100 hrs. [starting at Setpro around 2001] looking at Kenny's swing via slo-mo and real time.