Since the IPO in 2004, Tencent has returned ~45% annually to shareholders, turning $1 into $553.
Let's have a brief look at what returns could look like moving forward over the next 5yrs...
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Let's start with a base case.
@JordsNel from Vineyard Holdings put in the hard work with his deep-dive that I highly recommend. He shared the est. global industry 5Y growth rates weighted against Tencent's revenue (see below).
Jordan's weighted avg. growth rate was 14.6%
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Let's round that up to 15% which is still conservative considering China's CAGR in each industry is likely to be above the global avg.
Additionally the capital allocation from Pony Ma & management + the dominant market positioning is likely to lead to much higher returns
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Base case (2021-2026)
- Revenue CAGR 15%
- Investment portfolio CAGR 15%
(includes investments from FCF on top of IRR)
- 25% FCF margin
- 20x FCF multiple (core business)
Base case 5Y annual return: 15%
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Bear case (2021-2026)
- Revenue CAGR 10%
- Investment portfolio CAGR 5%
(includes investments from FCF on top of IRR)
- 20% FCF margin
- 15x FCF multiple (core business)
Bear case 5Y annual return: 1%
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Bull case (2021-2026)
- Revenue CAGR 20%
- Investment portfolio CAGR 20%
(includes investments from FCF on top of IRR)
- 30% FCF margin
- 25x FCF multiple (core business)
Bull case 5Y annual return: 27%
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If we weight the probabilities of each scenario 25/50/25 then $TCEHY expected return over the next 5Y is 14.5%.
I would argue that is conservative, i'd personally weight the bull case at ~30% and bear case at ~10%. I was purposefully pessimistic in all scenarios.
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$TCEHY announced that they are giving shareholders their ~18% stake in $JD as a special dividend, which is a 3% yield. Shareholders receive one JD share for every 21 Tencent shares they own.
Here’s why this is even better than it might seem at first glance…
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This one off special dividend could potentially be the first of many for Tencent over the long-term. I have seen some commentary online calling this ‘a move out of the $IAC playbook’..
More specifically it’s a homage to the great Barry Diller.
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The idea of this is pretty exciting for $TCEHY shareholders. But probably even more exciting for $PROSY shareholders.
Just to give some context for those who are unfamiliar… Here is the Barry Diller & $IAC playbook in a nutshell:
$BABA in their most recent investor presentation reported the China cloud market size in 2020 at $32B of which they have a market share of ~30% which equated to $11B in revenues FY21.
Now here’s where it gets pretty crazy …
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They estimate the China cloud market size in 2025 to be $154B which is a 37% CAGR.
If $BABA maintain ~30% market share that will be $46B in revenues from the cloud business in FY25. Over 4x the current revenue for Alibaba cloud.
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Western cloud businesses like AWS and Azure are valued at ~15x sales or more by most analysts.
An equivalent multiple to $BABA cloud in 2025 would give a value of $693b which is over double the current market cap for Alibaba.
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If you want to take advantage of low prices in China I think $TCEHY is the best bet. $BABA is slightly cheaper, but Tencent is higher quality with better management imo. Both trade at ~10-12x NTM earnings if you back out investments and cash.
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Both have regulatory risks, maybe slightly less so for $TCEHY since they are somewhat globally diversified through the investment portfolio.
$BABA has huge upside (uncertain) with their market leading cloud business. But Tencent could benefit from their own cloud as well.
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$TCEHY core business offers slightly more growth imo. But again, depends on how $BABA cloud works out for overall growth.
If I had to choose, I’d prefer my money with Pony Ma. Although I’ve got a bet on both horses in the race.