Was #IbnHajar an Ashari?
He did Taweel.
He said Tafweed was the way of the #Salaf.
Apparent meanings were impossible.
He followed the #Ashari way in Kalam.
He clearly rejected ITs definition of Iman.
He agreed with Kasb.
Agreed with Tahseen & Taqbeeh of the Asharis.
He did Taweel.
He said Tafweed was the way of the #Salaf.
Apparent meanings were impossible.
He followed the #Ashari way in Kalam.
He clearly rejected ITs definition of Iman.
He agreed with Kasb.
Agreed with Tahseen & Taqbeeh of the Asharis.
He denied Makan and direction.
He mocked the Mujasimah and those that follow the apparent meanings.
He quoutes ashari scholars and agrees with them!
He mocked the Mujasimah and those that follow the apparent meanings.
He quoutes ashari scholars and agrees with them!
He made Taweel of:
Yad, Qadam, Saaq, ‘Ayn, Nuzul, Ityaan, Istiwaa, Wajh, Rahmah, Uluww, Maje, and many many many more!
Yad, Qadam, Saaq, ‘Ayn, Nuzul, Ityaan, Istiwaa, Wajh, Rahmah, Uluww, Maje, and many many many more!
نقل الحافظ 13/418: "وذهب أئمة السلف إلى الانكفاف عن التأويل، وإجراء الظاهر على مواردها، وتفويض معانيها إلى الله تعالى . . . " اهـ.
نقل الحافظ 13/418: "أحدهما يقول: لا نؤول شيئاً منها، بل نقول: الله أعلم بمراده، والآخر يؤول فيقول – مثلاً – معنى الاستواء الاستيلاء، واليد القدرة، ونحو ذلك. . . " اهـ.
وَيَكُونُ مَعْنَى فَهُوَ عِنْدَهُ فَوْقَ الْعَرْشِ أَيْ ذَكَرَهُ وَعَلِمَهُ
قال الحافظ 13/421: "قوله: (كان الله ولم يكن شيء قبله) تقدم في بدء الخلق بلفظ: "ولم يكن شيء غيره"، وفي رواية أبي معاوية: "كان الله قبل كل شيء"، وهو بمعنى"كان الله ولا شيء معه"، وهي أصرح في الرد على من أثبت حوادث لا أول لها من رواية الباب، وهي من مستشنع المسائل المنسوبة لابن تيمية،
ووقفت في كلام له على هذا الحديث يرجح الرواية التي في هذا الباب على غيرها. . " اهـ.
He rejects Kalam is Sounds & states Bukhari did too!
قال الحافظ: لأن لفظ الصوت مما يتوقف في إطلاق نسبته إلَى الرب، ويحتاج إلَى تأويل، فلا يكفي فيه مجيء الحديث من طريق مختلف فيها ولو اعتضدت، ومن هُنَا يظهر شفوف علمه، ودقة نظره، وحسن تصرفه.
قال الحافظ: لأن لفظ الصوت مما يتوقف في إطلاق نسبته إلَى الرب، ويحتاج إلَى تأويل، فلا يكفي فيه مجيء الحديث من طريق مختلف فيها ولو اعتضدت، ومن هُنَا يظهر شفوف علمه، ودقة نظره، وحسن تصرفه.
Those that claim Ibn Hajar was not Ashari bring 3 points:
1. He quoted Abu Jafar; claiming there is a Mu’tazili opinion in the school!
2. He mentioned Khilaf between Ahmad and Ashari on Kalam.
3. He said doing Taweel on your own is bad!
1. He quoted Abu Jafar; claiming there is a Mu’tazili opinion in the school!
2. He mentioned Khilaf between Ahmad and Ashari on Kalam.
3. He said doing Taweel on your own is bad!
A1: Quoting an opinion doesn’t mean he isn’t Ashari; nor does an issue agreeing with Mu’tazilah mean it is wrong; I could list 3 things off the top of my head that wahhabis agree with Mu’tazilah in.
So this point is silly!
So this point is silly!
A2. Yeah we know there is Khilaf between the Hanabilah & Ashari and the Asharis. That wasn’t a secret. Even some Hanbalis agreed with Ashari and some Ashari agreed with Ahmad on kalam.
Point 2 also doesn’t prove anything.
Point 2 also doesn’t prove anything.
A3. We agree that doing Taweel on your own or following later day people is dangerous! Following the earlier opinions on the meaning is definitely better from the proper authentic sources as well.
In addition; He did Taweel to every single Siffah!
So point 3 is also silly!
In addition; He did Taweel to every single Siffah!
So point 3 is also silly!
Ibn Hajar is Ashari.
That is the bottom line.
That is the bottom line.
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