I had one of my overly-long, verbose threads half-written on this, but the more I thought about it, I figured it was just worth emphasising a few things, all of which - weirdly - began with P...
1. Patience. We're all sick of this 4 waves in, same

bbc.co.uk/news/health-59…
chances missed, same late (in)action. It's clear that SARS-CoV2 WILL become endemic eventually, but not yet. It's too well adapted to humans to burn out, elimination is challenging. The best we can hope for is a VERY low endemic set point...but we're not there yet.
Endemicity is
a state that means things are predictable because the number of people susceptible to infection balances the inherent transmissibility of the virus. So, three things enter a sort of equilibrium - immunity, environment, and viral evolution.
We are still VERY much in a dynamic
scenario. Incomplete vaccination coverage (PLEASE vaccinate under 12s asap!), waning antibody responses, insufficient NPIs, and, quite clearly, importation of new variants that cause our population immunity to have to adapt...again, and again...and again!
BUT, we must be patient.
The vaccines ARE reducing the link between infection and severe disease, especially as omicron appears less severe than delta (which was more severe than others, so this DOES NOT MEAN MILD!!!). The more we vaccinate, the majority of people will experience lesser and lesser
severe symptoms, unless of course something about the virus changes again (spike is not the only protein!). The problem with the BBC piece is that we're saying that this is now set in stone, which it isn't. The current "majority" is not enough, in my opinion. This brings me on to
my next P...
2. Prevalence. Prevalence (the presence of infections over time) is a major issue for practical, economic, virus-geek and, critically, health reasons.
Last one first. We saw in the BBC piece that COVID will, from now, "only" affect vulnerable people, and we can
"protect" them. Well. This returns the rather sickening feeling I experienced back in the autumn of 2020 when a reluctant town in America bore witness to a champagne reception, toasting a certain "declaration". It's actually my 3rd "P", but let's go with it here...
GBD sought to
"protect" the vulnerable whilst allowing everyone else to get infected and generate "herd immunity". Now, I won't dwell on the immunological and virological flaws of this, they've been discussed ad infinitum, but importantly, there are a LOT of vulnerable people out there! How do
you possibly ID and "protect" them? This "GBD by vaccine" is scuppered by the people you're seeking to protect actually being those least likely to respond to the vaccines properly. Catch 22? Also, kids aren't fully vaccinated, some people can't have one, others (maddeningly)
choose not to. So, whilst this is an incredibly frustrating situation as our vaccines are VERY VERY good, the simple fact is that people will be at risk, mainly due to my second P...
In addition, what makes me RAGE about this is that vulnerable people have the same damned rights
as anybody else. They have lives, livelihoods, loves, and other stuff beginning with L. They don't WANT to be protected, many have been effectively social hermits since March 2020, they want to LIVE their LIVES.
Ask yourself, is it right that others are put at risk for my
benefit? Now, many folks will say we can't have zero risk, and, without wanting to speak on their behalf, I think the vast majority of vulnerable people likely accept and agree with this! Weirdly, if you've lived with a lifelong condition, potentially taking toxic meds that mess
up your immunity, you're probably used to a certain amount of risk in everyday life...the problem comes with the proposed complete abandonment of other measures and assuming that the vaccines will do the whole job. They won't, sadly.
So, reduce exposure by reasonable methods, why
not? I personally don't consider wearing a mask in a shop a restriction of my freedom, or for that matter breathing lots of fresh air inside modern, well ventilated buildings. Some do, I realise, and I'll no doubt get some replies with 99% in there somewhere...I ask you...
The BBC piece talks about accepting a certain amount of risk, and this is obviously going to be the case. However, I'm forced to skip ahead to my fourth P here, "pedantry", as the example of flu is, in my opinion, not quite right.
Now, I'm not one for condoning the "with" not
"for" nonsense, due to the impact caused regardless. However, it should be pointed out that the VAST majority of deaths associated with flu every year are due to secondary bacterial pneumonia. Again, I'm not in any way saying that's acceptable, and neither do our amazing public
health teams. We vaccinate against flu, including children, devoting huge resource. We have huge surveillance programmes (GISAID, anyone?!) and it's an incredibly well resourced research and pharmaceutical area. We could do more, certainly, and as I've said before here, flu based
platitudes are utterly pointless in terms of it not being a serious disease. But we're in a TOTALLY different place for flu in terms of the nature and extent of prior exposure within the population, so to compare the endemic behaviour of this to SARS2 seems wrong to me...2 wrongs
and all that...
So...back to prevalence. We know how to reduce this, but we're simply not doing it. Vax, vent, mitigate...we've had time, the investment is certainly worthwhile over the longer term, and, similar to the dreaded pingdemic, the current disruption caused by isolation
rules etc actually happens because there's LOTS of virus around! Masks are great, but Swiss cheese is by far the best way forward...
Exposure to high prevalence puts vulnerable at risk, exposes waning immunity to increasing challenge, meaning breakthrough/reinfection more likely
, and, as we've experienced on several occasions now, provides the breeding ground for further virus evolution...not ideal in a partially vaxd/waning community...remember, all VOCs so far have arisen in un/poorly vaccinated backgrounds.
So, we have a tough decision to make, and,
assuming they're sober, this needs to be made by the government and communicated properly. Is there a line in the sand they're prepared to tolerate? 2-300 deaths per day would effectively double deaths caused by respiratory viruses. The callous and offensive line from "one
scientist" that you "can't die twice" is not only horrendous to behold, but is clearly incorrect unless you believe that millions of vulnerable people are actually the rate limiting step of infections? Unbelievable.
Again, patience is needed. We're on the right track with the vax
, we can get there much faster though. I'm not exactly sure how SARS2 had "endemicity written all over it" as this depends upon multiple factors...it's certainly likely eventually, but the question is how much harm you're prepared to tolerate en route. How can we reach an
equilibrium when both the virus, and our immunity are still in a state of flux? The answer is, I think, you can't realistically...
But, we DO have the way forward. We CAN bring everyone along on this journey, or at least give them the means to ride alongside. We can't, however,
treat the UK as a bubble separate to the rest of the world. We are in an amazingly privileged position with our vaccine programme. It is therefore bizarre to see so many comparisons to January as justification for everything being alright...
This virus is still a relative unknown
, we hear of multi-systemic effects, neurological symptoms, and I haven't even had time to go into long COVID and the criminal neglect of morbidity when it comes to policy and planning...that would have taken another long and entirely verbose thread...🤪

So yes, endemic SARS2
will no doubt happen, but not yet, and hopefully not at a set point like we're seeing today. If that happens, and we tolerate this virus at that sort of level, then I'm afraid that famous inquiry we're all waiting for will be addressing an even more terrible failure going forward

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This is wrong in so many ways.
Disease is a function of virus, host, and environment. Yes, omicron has some differences to Delta etc., but it's our vaccines, with an unpredictable element of prior infection that's changing, but not breaking the relationship between incidence
and severity.
Nonetheless, to use flu as a platitude is also unwise. The reference here is seasonal strains to which we have an element of cross protection in the community, but against which we also vaccinate.
SARS-CoV2 remains a recent zoonotic event against which we are racing
to build immunity as a population, speeded along by vaccination. It may become endemic, ie predictable, in the future, but that does not mean benign, and could take many years. Pandemic flu is also devastating, we would have no prior immunity again, but SARS2 also has differences
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Righto, just going to throw this out there but take none of the credit as the person behind this would rather avoid any ensuing debate...

In brief, there's huge debate around Omicron being "mild'. This is misleading as, whilst populations may be better equipped immunologically
to stave off severe disease, this is not generally due to reduced virulence per se...the virus would be just as nasty in a naive cohort.

So, obviously most of the information we have comes from South Africa. This is important because omicron is doubling so fast there literally
hasn't been enough time for severe disease to develop in any but the very first amongst those infected in the UK. We're used to the lags and thankfully different trajectories of severe disease and deaths now due to the high vaccine efficiency vs alpha and Delta, less so for the
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Dec 6, 2021
Right, have to get some things off my chest...
All entirely my p.o.v, lots of reading but no citations. Happy to be proven wrong, but I've done my own research...🤪
1. Of course the pandemic isn't over and wasn't a few weeks ago either...utter fuc*nuts who said so. Honestly...🤦‍♂️
2. Somewhat related to 1. No, it is NOT ENDEMIC YET, in the UK or anywhere else. I mean, if nothing else, our new friend Omicron is the equivalent of this to that argument...(couldn't find a gif with the big one, would you believe?!)
...but in all seriousness, we have nowhere near enough stability in terms of our population level immunity to outpace SARS2 evolution, prevalence is ridiculous, and this is having the predicted outcome in terms of severe disease, death AND long COVID, across all ages 😪
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It's noticeable that even before MHRA has done it's assessment, a very vocal element are already trying to dictate the media narrative on vaccines for 5-11 yo...
Sadly, some of the narrative being used to put the kibosh on this is baseless and misleading
There are some key areas that are cited over and over again by certain groups of people against vaccinating kids...they usually sound plausible as they're based around facts, but "based" is doing a lot of work here

1. Kids rarely get ill from COVID. OK, so it's certainly true
that the relative risk for people developing severe acute disease reduces significantly with younger age. Everybody knows this, but we're currently in a situation where the majority of the 12M <18s in the UK are being exposed. As such, it's a simple fact that the denominator for
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Nov 17, 2021
OK, an attempt to explain virus evolution, especially SARS2, and how our present situation influences this process.
TLDR...it's fair to say that current UK scenario is almost certainly an "enabler" for SARS2, and it could encourage the refinement of, or next step from Delta...
Some important points to remember:
1. Viruses are obligate parasites, so entirely dependent upon the host to survive and thrive.
2. Viruses are the ultimate embodiment of "selfish genes".
3. Viruses usually evolve towards improved transmission, in the absence of interventions.
4. Mutation is essentially a random process, but selection and establishment of new mutants is not.
5. We're talking about Darwinian evolution, but on a massive and incredibly fast scale. Nevertheless, "fitness" and evolutionary niches are major players.
6. 1-5 = too much jargon!
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What I really find hard to stomach on all the frankly heinous statements in the JCVI minutes is that so much damage has already been done.
Failure to protect teens over summer despite unlocking and everyone with half a brain realising another wave would come is just shocking imo.
MHRA approved Pfizer for 12+ in June. We are in a pandemic. JCVI should not have needed nearly 4 months to come up with their non-decision/deferral to the CMO.
Reading the 💩 about using kids the way they suggest is so upsetting, but also how did they realistically imagine that
working?
The fact is that the majority of infections have been in <18s, these have seeded infections in other age groups, and we're seeing rising hospitalisations and deaths as a result, across all ages, including kids.
Our waning immunity would be far less of a concern if there
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