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Jan 25 30 tweets 12 min read
/1 Hi Lucy and your colleagues.

Your advocacy toolkit contains poorly sourced, contexted, and biased information on mental health during the pandemic/schooling.

And I have receipts too!
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#urgencyofnormal

/2 I'm skipping the first line (for now), but the second part, about "deaths from child suicide vastly outnumbering deaths from COVID and are increasing" is about as awful as it gets. I consider it ghoulish to wield child suicide statistics inaccurately to make advocacy points.
/3 In order, I'm going to go through your awful slide on mental health as you selectively cited "scary findings." Of course, as the suicidologist, I'm going to start with your clearly expert-free statement on child suicides in the US, as this is my expertise.
/4 You cite 2400 child suicides in the US for 2020, which is an overestimate by 10.2%. We have CDC wonder and can clearly see that there were 2,177 suicides in the "under 18" group, and 1,679 in the "under 17 group."
/5 Was it an increase from 2020? It would not be accurate to describe it this way.

Ive done things that are important in comparing yearly suicides:
* convert to rate per 100,000
* show error bars to demonstrate signiificant change
* use data honestly with context
/6 You & your colleagues missed something very important in your inaccurate and sensationalistic reporting.

Both 2019 & 2020 are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than 2018.

Sometimes though, we cite things and the citation source made a mistake.
/7 But this is academic misconduct. You have mis-cited the CDC report. I don't care if its an oversight, it's unacceptable.

Not only were children NOT the only age to show increase (25-34 did as well in males), NO CHILD GROUP SHOWED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. The citation says so.
/8 But, lets follow the logic of your summary slide. In 2019 there were 2,156 suicides 0-18 years. And 2020 there were 2,177. That's 19 extra suicides. So 19 extra suicides vs 179 covid deaths in 2019 (Source: AAP).
/9 But I hope for the sake of the kids you all see as pediatricians (and one child psychiatrist who either did not know how to interpret the evidence or wasn't listened to) you don't do this "fewer kids died of X vs Y so X isn't really a concern" thing. That's pretty ghoulish.
/10 For thoroughness:

* ages <15 (2019 is the non-significant outlier not 2020)
* ages 15-18 (34 fewer suicides! so by your logic... schools out?)
* girls
* non-white - most signal but still not statistically different and it looks more like 2019 the outlier year.
/11 And as I've demonstrated before, when ALL KIDS EXPERIENCED SCHOOL CLOSURES in the US, there was, for the first time in history, a flattening of suicide risk during school months.

/12 So now that I've debunked your claim about suicides increasing, shown that you improperly cited your narrative-selected citation, and demonstrated that school closures were associated with less risk, you'll update your advocacy, right?

Because this is about evidence, right?
/13 OK Let's move to #2.

Undoubtedly, I feel that the impact of the pandemic on eating disorders (ED) is the area with strongest evidence. Of course, you neglected to show that increases ED admissions didn't slow when schools opened. MI hybridized Sept 2020 and opened Dec 21.
/14 Eating disorder side-note: I'm not an ED specialist, but I believe the pandemic has hurt ED kids, due to lack of "healthy ways to mask an ED" (gyms, sports), lead-time bias (more time to display disordered eating and be detected), & global (not just school) lifestyle changes)
/15 A large collaborative multi-national study has found variable effects of lockdown on eating disorders, and I do not believe that after all the data has been completed, it will be simply summed "lockdown made eating disorders worse."

mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/1…
/16 OK so in Number 3, you cite the HHS report that plainly states your point.

However, you (And the HHS) neglected to accurately describe Racine et al, which is the source of this figure..
/17 Racine et al found the 25% depressive / 20% figure, however when they removed low-quality studies (21 of 26!), they arrived at much lower figures for depression, (18%, 11% to 26%) and anxiety (12%, 7% to 20%)
/18 As well, they commented on the severe heterogeneity (the studies were wildly different suggesting poor quality and severe confounding). Their final estimate for depressive symptoms (21% to 30%) was incompatible INCLUDING CONFIDENCE INTERVAL with 18 of 26 included studies.
/19 So like my criticism for the @HHSGov , you don't escape it either. If you're going to cite an article, read it and critically report what it's saying. (@vivek_murthy I really respect you, but you might really benefit from reading this thread and comparing it to your report)
/20 Well i guess that tackles #4 as well, doesn't it? It's the same citation.

The "doubling" is more accurately "by selecting high quality studies, there may have been an increase in anxiety and depression prevalence but it was not outside of previous confidence intervals."
/21 #5... Oh, my favourite MMWR, where the authors confused "suspected severe attempt" from NSSI, and did so on the basis of a paper on older adults showing that NSSI is a small proportion of ED self-harm presentations (please, @CDCgov, use child & youth mental health experts).
/22 I don't need to do a tweet thread criticizing this, because I ALREADY DID IT MONTHS AGO.

Here:


and here:
/23 Finally, you did this awful thing at 6, YOU CANT DO THAT. A horrid graph and you should be embarrassed to have produced it

There are no error bars. These are not nationally representative samples (except for suicide attempts). Pre-pandemic levels have error bars too.
/24 As well, Racine et al were looking at *symptoms of anxiety* and your "pre-pandemic" figures come from epidemiological studies of DISORDER rates.

Again, I'm going to attribute this to incompetence/biased thinking but it borders on academic and scientific malpractice.
/25 I've made your graph better and more accurate, because what we all care about most is not your advocacy point and prior beliefs, but using evidence to inform advocacy and decision-making.
/26 Besides, if I was arguing about returning to schools, personally, I wouldn't be citing evidence that talks about "the pandemic" and doesn't actually disambiguate pandemic distress from school distress.

This bait-and-switch all too common amongst unscientific ideologues.
/27 So, in total, your slides on mental health are beyond bad. By being unscientific and biased in your selection and presentation of data, you are part of the misinformation crisis of this pandemic.
/28 Oh, and shout out to @vivek_murthy @CDCgov @HHSGov I am available to consult on topics of child and youth mental health. I care the most about good science and science communication, and removing moral panic/poor science from policy discussion.
/29 This is the new me - less snark, more pointed, data driven. I hope threads like this go as viral as my snarky one, because I want to be less snarky.
2020. whenever :P time is a circle

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More from @tylerblack32

Jan 27
Moral panics exist because of anecdotes, disproportionately hyped harms and exaggerated claims of fear-supporting research (while fear-rejecting research ignored) fueled by media fearmongering and political exploitation.

This is why people beleive suicides increased in 2020.
It's hard hard hard work to overcome moral panics. I cite my work, provide error estimates, and discuss any aspect requested of me. I am constantly being riddled with questions that I've been asked a million times by people who "know suicides increased."
I've heard "but what about ODs/deaths of dispair" and have responded hundreds of times (they are usually accidents/don't use that term if you're not a PhD winning economist).
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Jan 26
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Canadian Suicidology Update
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We have official @StatCan_eng suicide data for 2020, ready to analyse by year. This lets us look at the trends and to see whether or not the "pandemic year" was associated with any significant changes, by gender and age.

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The headline is the MASSIVE drop in suicide rates during the first year of the pandemic. While not as massive as suggested in McIntyre et al*, it's still huge and significant:

DOWN 17.6% in males and 12.5% in females. 16.4% overall.

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I can break down our age groups as well, to look at specific groupings.

CANADIANS 65+

For older Canadians, both decreases (men down 14%, women down 6%) are no longer statistically significant (super close for the 65+ men).

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Jan 26
Wow, incredible.

The OPPOSITE of what is actually occurring (NON-EXPERTS scaremongering using inaccurate data on suicides, and selective citation science that is shoddy & poorly reported) to justify OPENING schools.

Nobody is taking position that "SCHOOLS MUST BE CLOSED"
/1
In my advocacy, I don't just discuss suicides, I discussed the state of the evidence globally including incident rates of eating disorders, depresison, anxiety, and suicide.

/2
In all of that, my position is clear: schools should be last to close and first to open. School is good. But closures, whenever necessary, are likely less harmful to kid's mental health than anything the pandemic is doing to our kids (orphanhood, worries about illness).

/3
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Jan 25
Apparently @drlucymcbride and colleagues are hosting a zoom event tonight to discuss their awful and unscientific #UrgencyOfNormal advocacy paper. I've been asked if i can go there to challenge them.

/1
I understand. But playing on their home turf and how liberally they use misinformation would only be an exercise in frustration in which they would gishgallop their way through their bungled appropriation of mental health and i'd be left to write more 29 tweet threads.

/2
Were I to have a "guest spot" on their zoom event, I would read the 29-tweet thread in its entirety, & then log off. I don't care what they think about it, I don't care about them personally, and I am not interested in people who ghoulishly wield child suicides without care.

/3
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Jan 20
Vaccines remain effective against every outcome, including receiving the diagnosis of COVID. Based off of the past month in BC.

For overwhelming our hospital system (Each case requires special procedures and staffing, draining our resource), massive protection.

/1
We will see the case protection numbers increase again, as unvaccinated people continue to get infected at a high rate with this Omicron spread, whereas vaccinated people peaked and are now well below the unvax rate once again.

/2
There are 710,138 unvaccinated eligible British Columbians. A portion of these people can not be vaccinated due to medical issues, but the majority can be. Please do your part and #getvaccinated.
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Jan 18
So proud of this. My research guru & mentor & boss @QdQwerty and I are proud to present MyHEARTSMAP - A psychosocial tool for the screening and assessment of youth.

It can be filled out by kids 10+ or parents of any age.

myheartsmap.trekk.ca

/1
This represents countless hours with a dedicated team of @QdQwerty's lab and colleagues, and coworkers. I'm so proud of the final product and, we've demonstrated that a tool like this can be completed by kids or parents with good reliability to interview & assessment.

/2
On a personal note, working with @QdQwerty is a dream; one of the smartest, kindest, ethical, and principled people I've ever worked with. Honoured to be part of her team.

/3
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