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Feb 22 40 tweets 5 min read
Alright, court is coming back for Pat King's bail hearing after lunchbreak. During the recess, King was served with the statement of claim in a $396 million class action lawsuit against him and other #FreedomConvoy organizers and participants.
That lawsuit, btw, is for damages on behalf of downtown Ottawa residents, businesses and workers.
Technical difficulties. There are too many people on the zoom call for the hearing. So they're ending it and restarting. Asking people to wait a minute so lawyers can get in.
Hopefully I don't get booted. Media also trying to do its job here..
I'm in. And King is in the courtroom. Kerry Komix is on the call. Resuming now.
Karimjee, the Crown lawyer, picks up on video he played that showed King asking protesters to lie to get past police checkpoints. "You indicated that you were not aware of that, correct?"
"No," she says.
"You obviously don't condone lying to police officers."
Komix says no, it's not in your best interest. When pressed, she agrees it's also wrong.
Karimjee now showing a video from Komix's own Facebook page. It's from Feb. 20, at 709pm.
"By this time you were aware that people... had been asked to leave, correct?"
Komix: I'm not sure at what time the announcement came out.
Karimjee plays the video. It has a banner that says "Trudeaus (sic) New Normal." It also has a logo that says "Ottawa GOONS" It shows a cop talking to the person filming and informing that person that they're in the red zone and could be subject to arrest.
The cop raises his voice and tells the person filming to "Get out of here."
Karimjee asks if that was Komix's video.
"I shared the video," she says.
Was it her in the video?
"No it was not me," she says.
Karimjee asks if sharing it means Komix supported the message of calling cops "Ottawa goons."
"I've shared it for the actions in there, not for the wording," Komix says.
"You disagree with the Ottawa goons wording?"
Komix: It's not a nice term, but I'm not there for the words... I shared the video because I felt it was a little aggressive on the police part.
Asked again, Komix says she doesn't agree with the term "Ottawa goons."
Karimjee asks if she agrees describing cops as goons is disrespectful.
Komix says she won't agree that "all police are the same."
Karimjee asks if Komix is one of the fundraising organizers, she says no.
He asks if she asked people to donate to the convoy.
Komix says... "I may have shared... I don't know... I have shared the page where people have asked for donations."
Karimjee pulls up his screen again. It's from social media again. It shows a comment on a photo of a man getting arrested, which is from someone with the username "kerrykomixx."
Komix says it's not her. "I know how to spell my name."
Karimjee notes Komix is under oath. "It's not mine," Komix says again.
Karimjee brings up another video. It's from a Facebook post. It shows a bunch of convoy images selling something called a "FCT" which is a "Freedom Convoy Token." It then shows Pat King as a "founder"
Then it shows an image of Kerry Komix and labels her as a "Freedom Fighter."
Komix says "that's me."
Karimjee reading now that the post says this initiative is a new donation platform for the convoy that was created by King, Komix and two others. It's described as crypto currency for truckers.
"I was part of it," Komix says. "You're calling it fundraising. It's a way to give back to the truckers. It's a fundraising for truckers for... I guess..."
"I'm extremely unknowledgeable about it. I was made a partner. It was to give back."
Karimjee suggests that, as a partner in this thing, this was the first time she had tried to raise funds through tokens like this.
Komix: "I'm not familiar with the whole full understanding of this."
Karimjee: This is the first time you participated as a partner in raising funds through tokens - correct?
Komix: "You put a lot of words in there..."
King's lawyer objects and says the question is not clear for a layperson.
Komix: "I don't understand how it works."
JP Seymour asks Karimjee's question about whether this was the first time she took part in something like this.
"I don't know if I participated in this... because I don't understand crypto anything."
Karimjee suggests she was a partner in fundraising in tokens so "you could avoid the government's grasp on the money."
Komix: "It's not a fundraiser. In my understanding it's tokens given to truckers that can make money for them to support their cause, to finance them."
Karimjee asks if she's disagreeing then that it was to avoid to government's grasp.
Komix: "No, I don't agree with what you're saying... I can only go by with what I know."
Karimjee: Did you ask any questions as to why we are not asking people to donate through credit cards or cash?
Komix: No, I trusted the people setting it up. "It's for a good thing. That's all I know."
Karimjee asks her annual income. Komix says she's not currently working. Does she have any income right now?
Komix says it's not income but she has money.
Komix says she doesn't feel comfortable discussing her finances.
Karimjee tells JP Seymour he thinks it's relevant because she is offering herself up as King's surety. Seymour tells Komix her finances are relevant to the court.
Komix says she's living off an inheritence. It's a yearly installment. She says she's received 100,000 dollars over the course of a few years.
"I'm not comfortable telling you how many years or how much money," she says. She then says there's going to be a bank draft coming to her account with more funds.
And she says this year's chunk is the last one. Plus she has equity she's taking from her home to cover bail cost
Karimjee asks if she knows how much she will pay for ankle bracelet monitoring. She says initial cost is 300 then 200 bucks a month after that.
Are you comfortable pledging the full equity value of your home, Karimjee asks (105k)
Komix: If need be.
Karimjee now asks what's her net assets, other than her home.
"Probably 50k or 60k," she says.
So 155,000 or 165,000 if you include the home.
Karimjee: Are you comfortable pledging the full amount of your networth?
Komix: No.
"Is it necessary?"
King's lawyer objects, says the questioning is getting "stale" and says Komix is already pledging a huge amount of money.
Seymour says it didn't go on too long, and notes Komix indicated what she's comfortable pledging, which would weigh into a potential decision.
Karimjee says he has no more questions.
King's lawyer, Rosemond, asks whether she would address any concerns the court might have about her as surety.
She says yes.
Rosemond says he has no further evidence.
Court is in recess again.

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Feb 22
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Rosemond also says reasonable people can object to COVID measures, and that should be considered when the JP considers whether King's release would impact public perception of the justice system.
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