Let’s reveal the right answer (and more) through this thread with this interesting information brought by @johannes_wittig
An incomplete story of excessive ventilation during #CPR…
In 2004, Aufderheide et al. investigated the harmful dimensions of ventilation during CPR. #OHCA CPR attempts of 13 adults were observed; .. (1)..
average ventilation frequency was 30 breaths/minute. Ventilation frequencies remained high after retraining. No patient survived.
2 pig study protocols followed using a pressure controlled, semiautomatic ventilator (constant flow rate of 160 L/min) .. (2)..
and invasive hemodynamic/ventilation monitoring.
- hemodynamic protocol (n=9): cross-over in random sequence 12, 20, 30 breaths/minute during asynchronous CPR; 3 pigs achieved #ROSC*, increased ventilation frequency was associated with significant increase in pH, ..(3)..
intrathoracic pressure and decrease in coronary perfusion pressure
- survival protocol (n=21): randomisation to either 12,30,30 (+5% inspiratory CO2) breaths/minute during asynchronous CPR; 6/7 pigs ventilated with 12 breaths/minute survived compared to 1/7 ..(4)..
in both 30 breaths/min group
The authors concluded that rescuers hyperventilate OHCA patients and that high ventilation frequencies have a detrimental impact on hemodynamics during CPR and survival. [1]
This new knowledge was quickly incorporated into the 2005 @ERC_resus ..(5)..
#BLS and #ALS guidelines, which recommended to avoid hyperventilation. [2,3]
It should be considered that the tidal volumes applied during this study approached 2.7 L. This can be derived from the ventilation devices constant flow rate and inspiratory time. [4] ..(6)..
In 2006 O’Neill et al. conducted a study, observing ventilation parameters (including respiratory rate and tidal volume) during adult CPR in an emergency department. 12 patients were included, median respiratory rate was 21, median tidal volume 619 mL. ..(7)..
No patient survived. They concluded that hyperventilation was common and was caused by high ventilation frequencies rather than tidal volumes. Also, they observed persistently high airway pressure and speculated on its detrimental impact on hemodynamics. [5] ..(8)..
In 2011 Gazmuri et al. investigated the impact of hyperventilation when different ventilation frequency/ tidal volume combinations were applied. 16 pigs were randomly assigned to 4 different intervention groups of 4 pigs each. Each group received a different ..(9)..
frequency (breath/min) + volume (ml/kg) combination: 10 + 6; 10 + 18; 33 + 6; 33 + 18. Hemodynamic and ventilation measurements were recorded. 13/16 pigs survived, ventilation combination and outcome were not associated; hemodynamics were not adversely impacted. [6] ..(10)..
In 2017 Vissers et al. published a systematic review to investigate whether the recommended ventilation rate of 10 breaths/minute compared to any other ventilation rate had a beneficial impact on outcomes (when an ETT** was in place during CPR). They found that the weak ..(11)..
recommendation of 10 breaths/min during CPR was based on very low-quality evidence. [7]
The current ERC guidelines state: ‘Once an ETT or an SGA*** has been inserted, ventilate the lungs at a rate of 10 min-1 and continue chest compressions without pausing ..(12)..
during ventilations (expert opinion).’ [8]
This thread will surely lead to more questions about (hyper)ventilation during CPR than it answers. More discussion and research are needed. ..(13)..
Let us know what you think about ventilation during CPR, key papers you like to see discussed and misconceptions you would like to debunk.
Welcome to this weeks #ResusciTuesdays. We will be learning about REBOA in medical cardiac arrest. REBOA stands for ‘Resuscitative Endovascular Balloon Occlusion of the Aorta’. Its aim is to occlude the aorta and therefore improve blood flow to the brain and coronary vessels.
REBOA is sometimes talked about alongside other interventions in cardiac arrest such as ECMO and SAAP (Selective Aortic Arch Perfusion - learn more here: intensivecarenetwork.com/selective-aort…). In this we will just be talking about simple balloon occlusion.
In Trauma, REBOA is used by some services to prevent exsanguinating haemorrhage. There is still a lot of ongoing debate about its use in Trauma, but it has been incorporated into clinical practice in places and there are ongoing trials such as @UKREBOATrial
Next our very own @ABichmann will be talking about debriefing in resuscitation!
First we hear about how stress and anxiety manifest themselves and about how COVID has heightened many of these feelings!
There are many different factors in stress and the impact that it may have. Some stresses are single events. Some may recur and if they recur enough then you may not have time to recover and these may turn into chronic stresses
Our next talk is Patrick Druwe talking about the REAppropriate trial!
To put these results into context we first will talk about the outcomes after OHCA
In Japan there is a high rate of resuscitation attempts in patients who may not have a resuscitation attempt elsewhere! There is therefore a high rate of non-shockable OHCA and these have poorer outcomes!
The Young ERC webinar has commenced! We will be talking all about Stress and Resuscitation. You can watch along live on our Facebook facebook.com/YoungERC.resus and we will be tweeting about the key takeaway points as we go!
Our first talk is from Kate Vasey who will be talking about the importance of self care!
When we are faced with stress we make an assessment about what we CAN do and what the task will involve. We then make an assessment about whether we can undertake that task and depending on how easily we think we can do it, our body will produce a stress response!
First up @abbamamma discussing the size of the problem with dispatchers/HCPs not being exposed to high loads of cardiac arrest calls and seizure activity a confusing factor #RESUS20
Seizures are hard for lay responders and HCPs to recognise. You can check a pulse as an indication of cardiac arrest but this is hard to teach lay rescuers. Plus arrhythmia may cause a seizure. How do we tackle this?? #RESUS20#CPR
Can AI help our dispatchers when trying to multi task: taking the call, talking to lay rescuer, dispatching EMS #RESUS20 is protocol with specific training or level of medical training a better system?
From the NCAA data we know there are around 250 paediatric cardiac arrests in UK hospitals each year! A study over a 7 year period found the majority of arrests had non shockable rhythms (95.7%)
Despite these being associated with worse outcomes in adults, a survival to hospital discharge of 54.2% was seen.