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Apr 5 29 tweets 9 min read
"Vaccines only" #COVID19 strategy w removal of other protections makes perfect if you hold 6 beliefs

Each belief WAS reasonable in 2020, yet proved wrong w time. Now, to maintain the idea that things are OK, each of these 6 beliefs must be defended with ever more vigor 🧵
I am completely serious that each belief was reasonable to hold at the start of the pandemic, and I myself held most of them. As we have learned more, I have changed my view, however many people have not and each of these beliefs has become a frontline in its own right - why?
I believe that cognitive dissonance explains a lot

...It is hard for us to admit we were wrong because this causes dissonance in our minds "I am a good person vs. I caused harm / I was wrong"

It is cognitively easier to change facts than to resolve the cognitive dissonance
This leads to "positive feedback loops of action and self-deception by which slight differences between people's attitudes become polarized" - exactly what we are seeing in our community

So here are the 6 beliefs and attempts to reinforce them
1. "It's mostly mild"

Prominent since the start & us. taken to mean 'not hospitalised'

Yet for many, even 3X vaxed, this 'mild' illness is the worst viral infection they get in years. When considering the ++high likelihood of infection in certain contexts (NYE party anyone?)
AND the fact that many people can expect to get #COVID19 more than once per year this "mostly mild" illness starts to cause enormous disruption to individuals, workplaces and communities

news.sky.com/story/easyjet-…
We've seen numerous reinforcements of the "mostly mild" belief, even as the virus has ⬆️ virulence at times:
"mild except for old"
"except for pre exisiting conditions"

& my personal favourite - the "incredibly encouraging mild hospitalisation of babies"

2. Immunity is perfectly effective against severe illness & persists (one and done)

I definitely believed this - I remember getting my first vax shot and thinking "checkmate #COVID19, my personal pandemic is over"
The other part of this belief is that immunity, whether acquired through vaccines or infection, is perfectly protective against severe illness or death - thus converting all cases to the "mild" category (which we know is a misnomer anyway)
Reinforcements of this belief:
-people insisting it's only unvaccinated who have anything to fear
- changing of data reporting goalposts to minimise the apparent number of reinfections
- downplaying calls for boosters (if perfect, why need booster?)
3. #LongCovid isn't real

I knew that post intensive care syndrome was well documented, if little known, and that survivors of CRITICAL #COVID19 would have problems

But I was extremely sceptical of long covid after non critical illness, rarely mentioning or amplifying news
Two things changed that - listening to voices of the #LongCovid community and some really terrifying science with good controls, like the Oxford brain scan study showing brain changes in survivors

The minimising of #LongCovid has been extraordinary - even while clinics are being set up and then immediately swamped it rarely rates a mention. It is truly an inconvenient truth
4. Kids are not affected

Another one I believed / that was true. I conducted a shattering interview w 2 Italian intensivists in Mar2020. On call mostly dedicated #pedsICU docs - and all we talked about were the sick adults bc sick kids were non issue

That has changed & #COVID19 has become important cause of death of kids, & cause of more illness (both short & possibly long term #LongCovidKids

Yes, children are definitely at LESS risk than adults, but children rarely get sick or die from anything

medpagetoday.com/opinion/second…
Re. #COVID19 & kids "Don't panic about INDIVIDUAL risk. DO act on COMMUNITY risk"

is message we need (kudos @ChandyJohnLab) but completely drowned out by increasingly strident calls to remove remaining protections like masks for the largest unvaxed pop

Part of insistence that kids are OK is that there isn't vax available <5yo

This has lead to strange scenes where the same people will say certain age kids don't need vax, then that they do but there's no hurry then wonder out loud why vax rates are low
5. I / we / my country are separate

The "vulnerable" are an unfortunate few that regrettably have to shield away in this brave new #COVID19 world

As long as my family / country has high vax rates we are ok, we can get back to "normal" life
Again not true. Firstly, these beliefs are inherently ableist, classist and racist and run against important measures we have made and must continue to make our societies fairer and more accessible
Secondly, huge proportions of the pop. have pre existing conditions. WE ARE THEM

The very same people that are supposed to shield themselves away are the ones whose deaths are minimised due to those same conditions - it just doesn't work

smh.com.au/national/under…
Thirdly, from a purely self interested viewpoint it's counterproductive

Variants repeatedly arise in countries with massive case numbers - almost everywhere now

There is emerging evidence that variants arise WITHIN immunosuppressed people who maintain chronic infections
i.e. within "vulnerable" people

news-medical.net/news/20210805/…
Yet discourse always about OUR national vax rates, OUR want of 'normal'

Inconvenient truth- EVERY infected person makes almost a TRILLION SARS-CoV-2 copies, a trillion chances for another variant to emerge

No one is safe until everyone is safe

#COVID19

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
6. NPIs (non pharmaceutical interventions) don't work

If NPIs (masks, #SafeIndoorAir) etc. don't work then it's no point doing them, any money spent on them is wasted and any perceived restrictions (e.g. with masks) are government over reach
Of course no NPI works perfectly, which is why need layers of them

We hear there is no "high level evidence" of, e.g masks. Often unclear what is meant but it usually means "holy grail" (I use ironically) of medical research, the individual patient randomised controlled trial
This ignores few truths:

Whenever we study one thing in isolation in a COMPLEX environment, e.g. ICU, we almost always find a negative result

This doesn't mean that our interventions don't work, just that they are one of many & the effect of each is small. Hence, layers of NPIs
Further, many ways to find scientific truth that aren't pt level RCT. There is already a cluster RCT of masks that shows benefit, & numerous observational studies
In fact, the evidence for masks is already FAR greater than for most other safety measures we readily accept in our daily lives like seatbelts or tobacco restrictions NONE of which have been subject to any patient level RCT
"perfect sense"

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More from @drgregkelly

Jan 27
Hi @edu_sagov @SAHealth -this press release contains dangerous misunderstanding of role of HEPA air purifiers in reducing #COVID19 transmission

Purifiers DO NOT remove CO2, so this trial says nothing about their ability to remove virus, which they can do

education.sa.gov.au/department/med…
Big win thanks to amplification on Twitter & great journalism by @stephrrichards. @edu_sagov have corrected error in press release & announced that they will purchase 4000 filters

More to be done but good progress

Here is article
indaily.com.au/news/2022/01/2…
Read 4 tweets
Jan 20
"Science has defanged Covid, time to get on with our lives"

This, by usually reasonable Devi Sridhar, is a huge worry because it is almost entirely disconnected from the current reality that the pandemic is far from over and buys into a HUGE fallacy

🧵

theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Fallacy is this - we should relax about #COVID19 b/c then we "treat...this virus like we do other infectious disease threats"

Reality is that if we treated covid like we do other threats and STOPPED NORMALISING CATASTROPHE we would do MORE, not less
We should do more to control #COVID19 for three main reasons, all major concerns in most countries:
1. Death
2. Health, happiness & productivity
3. Inclusion
Read 10 tweets
Dec 15, 2021
The most dangerous idea in Australia right now is that, somehow, our #COVID19 experience could have / should have been much better

Objectively we have done better than almost anywhere w low deaths AND good economy yet we are about to throw it all away because it's really hard 🧵
It's done without any coherent strategic thought about where we're headed

New style is just to pick and choose bits we like from Western countries at certain times w/out seeing how their strategy fits together or how it unfolds. Eg Denmark looked awesome 3m ago let's be them!
And, side note, to completely ignore non Western countries and esp. Asian countries who have consistently and repeatedly outperformed Western countries
Read 6 tweets
Oct 25, 2021
I'm increasingly thinking that the main Q we need to ask ourselves in highly vaccinated countries is:

Do we want the pandemic to continue or do we want to start wearing high quality masks in public?

Brief 🧵
Mencken said that for every complex problem there's an answer that is clear, simple & wrong

However, caution re. oversimplification shouldn't obscure the fact that transmission of SARS-CoV-2 IS simple

It can ONLY be transmitted from an infected person to an uninfected person
Science is increasingly confident that airborne transmission of #COVID19 predominates

Humans ONLY breathe through their nose & mouth, both exhalation & inhalation*

*Principle not changed by small % with tracheostomies and some people that appear to talk mainly out of their arse
Read 9 tweets
Sep 22, 2021
Honoured to appear at the Senate Select Committee on #COVID19 alongside Prof Raina MacIntyre on behalf of @RealOzSAGE - specifically discussing COVID and kids

Chaired by Senator Gallagher @SenKatyG

⬇️🧵on my comments below

Appears to be controversy on COVID & kids:

- Experts saying less severe in kids than adults, only 2% hospital admission, death v rare

- Overwhelmed paediatric hospitals in US & now Canada

Both are true, if we understand why we can avoid worst of #COVID19 in Australia, again
1, risk is not evenly spread

An average of 2% of hospital admission & much lower of death hides that there are some children & adults with much higher risk

E.g. some data suggest Down Syndrome (pretty common) greatly increases risk of death
Read 12 tweets
Sep 3, 2021
Why we formed OzSAGE @RealOzSAGE, who we are and why we're promoting:

- Living with occasional outbreaks, not widespread #COVID19 disease
- Ventilation & #vaccinesplus
- No one left behind
- Protecting the health system

🧵
Australia has many world class institutes, universities, etc. We know because we represent many of them!

Yet #COVID19 challenges us because it cuts across every silo of expertise. Virology to sociology. ICU to IT. So we gathered 50+ ppl from the largest relevant breadth we could
Diversity counts

People think similarly if they have same backgrounds, trained in same system or come from same place

We are proud to be a diverse group. Half women, multicultural, strong First Nations representation, many industries

Academics AND frontline healthcare workers
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