(This is normal when compelling the production of documents from entities that are not named parties in a lawsuit.)
ACLU's behavior is irrelevant

If you don't see "ACLU" as a named defendant in the case caption – in the lawsuit Johnny Depp filed, whose defendants he chose – then they're entitled by law to their discovery expenses
Nah. These sorts of amounts are normal in civil litigation, and I suspect all the moreso for a New York-based third party
It's statutory under New York law. See NY CPLR §3111 and §3122(d)

But even federally, cost-shifting happens all the time under FRCP 45 if the cost is more than insubstantial. You just can't lard it up with things outside reasonable costs of actual compliance
Good talk 👍👍
LMAO talking sh*t behind a block is hilarious
Trying to figure out if it's funnier that you blocked me before tweeting this nonsense, or that you felt compelled to crop out the rest of the tweet

Your dishonesty is illuminating

Not that I'm aware of, and trust me I'd know 😂
On the law, no; I don't think either of them can prove their respective cases (remember Heard filed a countersuit too)

But juries can reach unusual conclusions, and both sides will have post-verdict motions and appeals they'll file regardless
That sort of result is common, usually $1 verdicts for either side
Absolutely. Which, again, *totally not unusual* in over-financed litigation
I don't learn they're disgraced VAs until after I point out their legal takes are dumber than a bucketful of bent nails
The only people who will win here are the lawyers, yes
Many years back, I worked on a document-intensive multinational fraud case that ultimately settled for low 8 figures. Every lawyer in my firm at the time was putting in 8-hour days at $300/hr for weeks
They're not though. That's probably on the cheap side for multiple broadly-worded subpoenas in New York
The funny part is that several of the people insisting the amount is unreasonable are normally onboard with anti-SLAPP statutes because of how expensive litigation is

WTF DID YOU THINK THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT ON??
Awww poor Walt still wants to be part of the conversation 🥺
What's in poor taste about expecting someone to reimburse your costs of providing a service to them?

Depp could have named ACLU as a defendant if he wanted to, yet he didn't. So ACLU gets to have their expenses reimbursed for complying with his subpoenas
I didn't avoid your question at all, I asked you to explain what was in bad taste about it

If the ACLU ghostwriting an op-ed was such a big deal, Depp could have sued them. He didn't. It's weird that you think it's more of a big deal than he does.

I'd avoided it precisely b/c the people who tend to comment on it have zero interest in what the law actually is, and just want to go "nuh uh you're wrong" to people who've been litigating defamation cases professionally for far longer than they have

1️⃣ Probably

2️⃣ Because, as a default starting position, most people and most organizations say "no" to other people who demand they disclose information

It was 😬 not gonna say *how long* ago though b/c I'm self-conscious as it is lol

I don't know what you're billing, but the answer is always yes

No matter how high I raised my rates, it turned out there were always worse lawyers charging more money
Too many new people here, I was worried someone would actually believe I was getting paid $25-per-tweet with bulk rate bonuses for RTs and Likes 😂
Because Depp's legal team issued the subpoenas

The party that issues the discovery demands ends up bearing the costs, not the judge
That's a question for @AkivaMCohen or @j_remy_green, NY attorneys who both litigate extensively
If you're going to steal someone else's photo and tweet it pretending it's you, you should crop out the rest of the screen first
Blocked for impersonation and being a weirdo
No clue. It's all very strange, esp between the "LeT mE sEe YoU!" and the excessive hashtag use
I'm fine with weirdos (you), and I'm fine with impersonators (most parody accounts)

It's the creepy combination of being an impersonator and a weirdo that has that extra "ick" factor 😉
The self-awareness in this tweet is 🤌
What #is it with #you people #and the incessant #hashtags? 🤦‍♂️
These statements sure seem mutually contradictory and incapable of defamatory meaning

Guess we'll see what happens on JNOV and on appeal
Typically yes. Plaintiff's claims are numbered then Defendant's claims are lettered, or vice versa
Would it get that far? Not familiar with Virginia's appellate system. I'd imagine the intermediate appellate court do that ruling then SCOVA ignore it
You sound easily triggered. Seek therapy.
Though that at least means they do more than our Supreme Court, @Eodyne1

The NCCOA is usually the last word for cases here
But Screech told them I commented, you see

And he would never lie about something that easily disproved
Basically yes, but not really the jury's fault. Whether a statement is capable of defamatory meaning is typically a legal question for the judge, and the judge here just said ":shrug: let's have the jury decide"

It's also common for juries to do weird things, hence JNOV+appeals
("JNOV" == judgment notwithstanding the verdict, basically asking the judge to overturn the jury's ruling in a post-verdict hearing)
So the JNOV isn't going anywhere 😂

Yikes
It's just an added layer of protection to guard against an unreasonable jury verdict. They're not granted often, but can be when "no reasonable jury could have reached" that particular verdict

On the criminal side, it's similar but called a Motion for Judgment of Acquittal
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm routing all these questions to @Eodyne1 now 😂
You sound like a subject matter expert

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