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Jun 13 17 tweets 8 min read
Yet another large trial of ivermectin is now complete & the results are negative.

ACTIV-6 found no difference in mortality or hospitalization when people with COVID were randomized to ivermectin.

Yet another nail in the ivermectin ⚰️

Preprint medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

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ACTIV6 is a large placebo controlled RCT performed at 93 sites in the 🇺🇸 by @DCRINews

It enrolled adults >30yo w symptomatic COVID. They were randomized to either ivermectin or placebo.

The primary endpoints were death, Hospitalization, & symptoms
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04…
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It was a “fully decentralized study”, meaning patients could be enrolled remotely & medication shipped to their home (via next day mail). Follow up was either remote or in person.

Theoretically this is a great pragmatic way to enroll a large number of people in a trial.
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The trial has multiple arms & tested multiple doses of ivermectin:
- Low dose was 400 mcg/kg x 3 days (this is what was just published as a pre-print)

- High dose was 600 mcg/kg x 6 days (this is definitely a high dose; it is still ongoing)
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The study enrolled n=1559, and n=817 were assigned to ivermectin and n=774 to placebo.

The patients had a median age of 47 yo, with the typical comorbidities.

~1/2 were unvaccinated & 1/2 had received 2 or more vaccine doses.

Median time from symptom onset to tx was 6 days
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The results were stone cold negative.

People treated with ivermectin had no decrease in hospitalization or mortality. The event rate was very low however; only one death occurred in the study, which was in the ivermectin arm.
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What’s with the low event rates?

3-4% rates of hospitalization or ED visit certainly are lower than we’ve seen in most studies. (Compare to the EPIC-HR study of paxlovid)

But recall that ACTIV6 didn’t enroll only high risk patients & and it did enroll vaccinated people.
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Time to symptom resolution (or conversely mean time unwell) was not clinically or statistically different: 10.96 days vs 11.45 days.

Even with the most optimistic priors the likelihood that ivermectin shortens symptoms by even one day is <1%.

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Fortunately at this dose (400 mcg/kg x3 days) there were few adverse effects. So while ivermectin does not appear to be doing anything beneficial at least it isn’t harmful.

(It will be interesting to see what the AEs look like at a higher dose given for longer).
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So what can we conclude from this?
In a large randomized double blind placebo controlled study performed in the US, ivermectin failed to demonstrate *any* significant clinical benefit.

Like *every* high quality RCT (I-TECH, EPIC, IVERCORCOVID, TOGETHER) this was negative.
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I’m sure the usual crowd of ivermectin zealots will opine, so let’s try to anticipate & respond to their criticisms:

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“ThE dOsE wAs ToOoO Low!”
This was the same dose proponents claimed was effective back in 2020 & 2021.
RCTs using a higher dose have also been negative (see I-TECH). Another arm of ACTIV6 is looking at 600 mcg/kg x 6 days. I’m not holding my breath that it will be different
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“ThEy StArTeD tReAtMeNt ToOoO late”
The median was 6 days after symptom onset. This seems like a long time to wait for “early therapy.” However if we look at the subgroup who got treatment earlier (within 3 days of onset) they did… no better than those at 5, 7, or 9 days.
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“WhAt aBoUt UTTAR PRADESH!?”

The UP narrative has been pretty thoroughly debunked. The COVID stats from UP are dubious; entire districts show no deaths from *ANY* cause for months. Either IVM literally prevents death from EVERYTHING or the data is 🗑
onepagericu.com/blog/debunking…
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“ThIs StUdY iS fAaAke!”

I see no evidence of any glaring errors but I’m curious to see what peer reviewers find.

Notably the #CultOfIvermectin accuses any negative study of being fake but still haven’t admitted that Elegazzar & others actually were. It’s been a year…

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“Why are we still talking about this?”

Good question!

Most of the US is vaxxed; ~90% adults have had ≥1 shot. Most peoples interest in ivermectin is waning

But with many cults, as more is disproved, the more zealously the #CultOfIvermectin believes

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I started debunking ivermectin because I was tired of watching people taking it die of COVID in my ICU.

No amount of high quality studies will ever convince the high priests & priestesses of ivermectin. But perhaps a few more of their vulnerable followers can be saved.
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Jun 5
Once again there is a wave of #misinformation about #ExcessMortality & #vaccines in the US.

A mysterious insurance report says “excess mortality is rising” could it be the vaccines?
No. Virtually all the excess mortality is associated with COVID infections!

A debunking 🧵.
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Every few months, a myth of “unexplained deaths not from COVID” resurfaces.
Last time they claimed “young people” were inexplicably dying. Looking at the actual data it was pretty clear that virtually all the excess deaths under 45 were due to COVID.

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In a later incarnation, this conspiracy theory revolved around a mysterious (and nameless) "insurance industry expert” & "former Wall Street analyst” who did his own analysis and “found an 84% increase in excess mortality."

This too has been debunked.
reuters.com/article/factch…
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Jun 2
Once again EFD is fear-mongering without actually reading the paper.

In this study they placed anesthetized macaques in a plexiglass box & continuously inhale virus that was aerosolized by nebulizer.

This does not mean that #monkeypox is transmitted by aerosol!
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There is a huge difference between showing that a virus *CAN* be aerosolized in a controlled laboratory setting and saying it actually *DOES* spread as an aerosol.

There is no evidence that airborne transmission actually occurred in this (or any prior) monkeypox outbreak.
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Key points:
- read the whole paper including the methods
- try not to fall asleep with your head in a plexiglass box filled with nebulized monkeypox
- get medical advice about Monkeypox from actual experts in infectious disease (see my list below)
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twitter.com/i/lists/152708…
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Jun 1
FLCCC has gone from anti-vax dog whistles to full blown anti-vax yells.

Their new “protocol” (based on zero studies) treats “vaccine injuries” with their usual snake oil: vitC, IVM, HCQ, + hyperbaric O2 & more.

A🧵debunking this nonsense & a call for medical boards to act.
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First, this organization & its fringe doc members have moved from anti-vax adjacent IVM pushers to outright anti-vaxxers.

The official FLCCC position is “there is no medical justification to recommend vaccination.”flccc.substack.com/p/how-our-thin…

About as clearly anti-vax as it gets.
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They’ve also developed a new protocol to treat what they call “vaccine injury”?

What is “vaccine injury” you ask? Well they say it isn’t defined.

Basically anything bad that happens to a vaccinated person (snake bite, car crash, stroke, etc) could be “post-vaccine syndrome”
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May 21
Observational study from 🇭🇰 demonstrates the real-world efficacy of oral COVID treatments: paxlovid, molnuparivir.

Both meds appear to prevent mortality, & reduce mechanical ventilation & ICU admission. Suggests that PAX may be superior to MOLN.

A🧵
medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
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This was a case control study of ~40k hospitalized people with COVID19, comparing people who received oral therapies (🟩MOLN, 🟦PAX) to those who didn't.

It was propensity matched 4:1. After matching there were n=2,116 MOLN, n=991 PAX, & n=12,348 matched controls.
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They examined hospitalizations from 26 February to 26 April 2022, which corresponded to the Omicron surge in Hong Kong.

During this period about 80-90% of people in Hong Kong had received ≥ 1 vaccine dose, and 70-80% were fully vaccinated.
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May 15
A historical note about rounds.

A century ago, residents had to go all over the hospital to collect the data: medical records for the PMHx, lab for lab results, radiology to review scans, the bedside for vitals.

Presenting the data was important because only they had it all.
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That obviously isn’t true anymore. You can get all that data (& more) from the EHR. I can chart round on my phone at home. I don’t need data read to me.

But like many traditions in medicine, the practice of reading the data aloud continued long after the raison d'etre passed.
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For other examples of weird historical things we continue to do for no reason, you can read about the myth of OR shoe covers & or the most-translation of having a person say “ninety nine” to assess for fremitus.

onepagericu.com/blog/cx1l66qxj…

onepagericu.com/blog/tactile-f…
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Apr 23
Part 6️⃣ in my extremes of animal physiology #tweetorial series:

Case 1: How low can PaO2 go?

You are called by the lab about an abnormal ABG result.
pH 7.5 / PaCO2 20 / PaO2 22 / HCO3 15

“That’s gotta be venous” they say.
“No” you reply, “Its from a ___"
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Answer: bar-headed goose!

The Himalayan summits are almost lifeless.

In the midst of this barren landscape, breathless climbers have heard the thrum of wings & the honking of geese above their heads.

How can these geese breathe so easily while flying at over 8000m?
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Bar headed geese have many amazing adaptions to altitude: large hearts, specialized hemoglobins, highly capillarized muscles with dense mitochondria, and cerebral insensitivity to hypocapnia.

But most of all they have amazing lung physiology!

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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