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Jun 23, 2022 5 tweets 4 min read Read on X
My take on #Relaxo Footwears (966/-) through data and charts.

Analysis from FY96 – FY22
Sales grew at ~16%
EBITDA ~18%
NP ~17.5% (~19% till FY21)
4-5% improvement in EBITDA / EBIT / Net Profit Margins on a rolling 10 yr ending FY22 over FY06

@dmuthuk @contrarianEPS

1/N Image
2/N

Data from @screener_in

4-5% improvement in EBITDA flowing through led to doubling of Net Profits Margins from ~4% to ~8%. Future 4-5% improvements will only improve Net Profit Margins by 50% Image
3/N

While co. performance is very impressive , the stock price has run up way ahead of fundamentals to reach absurdly expensive levels

Charts for P/S , EV/ EBITDA , PE

At ~10x Sales it is significantly more expensive than most tech co. in the US. ImageImageImage
4/N

Looking at the 20 Yr log chart. That's 30% CAGR line!! for a co. growing at 15-18% p.a. I wouldn't be surprised if it falls another 50% to 425-450 levels in next 12-18 months. It would still be trading >30x PE Image
5/N

Crystal ball gazing upto FY40. Continue to assume improvement in EBITDA

Even for ultra long term investor the risk reward is unattractive. Its very likely that #Relaxo will struggle to give double digit returns this decade.

Don't hold any MF which holds this at this price! Image

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May 31, 2021
#PNBHousing #PNB
1/N

Today's announcement abt proposed Caryle led 4K cr investment in the co is against minority shareholders

As a background PNB and Carlyle both owns ~1/3 of the co. and ~10% by GA. (~25% by rest of the public)

FY21 Results for co
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2/N
Above results and management con call confirmed that there was no extraordinary stress with the co. Infact it was profitable, adequately capitalized (CRAR >20%) and expected only 75bps of credit cost in FY22
Then what was the need for co. to issue 4K crs at 25% discount to BV
3/N

which gives majority control to #Carlyle without the need to pay for control premium at the cost of minority investors

Original plan of 1800 crs rights issue was the right way to raise capital. Even when RBI didn't give approval to PNB, the co decided to pref allotment
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Jan 9, 2021
#WeekendMusings

Post on #Nifty 500 valuations wrt to its own history.

Why Nifty 500 and not Nifty50?

1) Because Nifty500 represents >95% mkt cap of India

2) Doesn't suffer from historical composition bias

As of 31st Dec20, the index has following statistical data.
Without adjustments the index on 31st Dec trading at PE of 43x / PB of 3.7x / Div Yield of 1.2%. Assuming a normal curve there represents following percentiles 100% (PE), 87% (PB) , 77% (Div Yield)

However earnings are depressed because of Covid. Current implied EPS is at ~265.
During Dec'19 the implied EPS was ~330. Assuming the same today the PE is at 34x ( 99%ile!!). Say the best case scenario that normalized EPS is 400 area, the PE would still be 29x (or 93%ile).

Clearly basis last 25 yr history markets today is top 5%-10% most expensive.
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Jun 27, 2020
1/N

Indian Investors have converted this famous WB quote to buy “quality” at any price! IMHO this is one of the costliest incidences of Chinese whisper!!!!!

However today I look at #Jubilant FoodWorks which appears to be a fair company at absurd valuations Image
2/N

My observations basis limited history of 10 yrs

Positives
•Remarkable past execution (30 mins delivery)
•Excellent historical growth
•Great Return Ratios (ROCE, ROE)
•Reasonable growth expectations going forward Image
3/N

Negative

•Doesn’t own the brand!! (Risk of dispute not factored)
•Questionable Promoters (Tried to extract a royalty for using the “Jubilant” brand. This for a co. which pays royalty to use #Dominos brand!!)
•Growth Slowdown (from ~40% to ~15%)
•Decline in return ratios
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Jun 14, 2020
1/N

Truman (ex US president) famously said “The only thing new in the world is the history you do not know”

With that in mind, I look at #Nestle financial history in India since 1993 (27 yrs of History)

Period 1 - CY93-CY2003
Sales -14.8% (CAGR)
NP - 21.8%
Mkt Cap - (9.1%)
2/N

Observations - Returns between '93 and '03 were low because of 2 factors - Starting PE was very high and Ending PE was decade low

Period 2 - "CY04-CY13"

Sales - 15.5% (CAGR)
NP - 15.6%
Mkt Cap - 23.3%

Observations - High returns becasue of low starting PE
3/N

Period 3 - "CY13 onwards

Sales - 5.3% (CAGR)
NP - 9.9%
Mkt Cap - 23%!!!

Observation - Sales/Earnings slowing (Maybe GST, Maggi debacle) but Mkt cap continued to grow 10% extra every year) to reach historic highs. This is bad setup for future returns.
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Apr 26, 2020
1/N

In 1934 Ben Graham and later in 1973 Buffet said

“In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run it is a weighing machine”

With that lens, my analysis on #HUL Valuations over 27 yrs

Rapid Growth (’92 to ‘01) – Sales 23%; EPS 30% Price 22% CAGR
2/N

Lost Decade (CY01-FY10) – Sales 5.4%; EPS 3.7%; Price 0.8% CAGR
3/N

Steady State (FY10-FY20) Sales 8.4%; EPS 12.3%; Price 25%
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Below chart courtesy @abhishec_s

Observations (while limited data points)

1. Mcap/sales (0.5-2x)
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Dmart Investors - Assuming next 27 yrs is as good as walmart the returns will be 10.5% CAGR. Assuming 2x walmart CAGR is 13.4%

The best case scenario is medicore. or Head I loose, Tail I don't win much.
(This is inverted version of @MohnishPabrai saying)
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You can as long as you know when to exit!!

Someone who has done this successfully is @BMTheEquityDesk who exited in Pantaloons, Bharti Airtel, Page etc in time.

He might have already exited BajajF as well
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