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1 Last night on Spaces, hosted by @Go_Kick_Rocks88, @ericalukesuap said when she spoke to biologist, Frank Salisbury, author of, "The Utah #UFO Display," he told her he didn't think anything anomalous took place on Skinwalker Ranch. She can correct me if I got that wrong.
2 A few excerpts from Salisbury's (2010 edition) book:

"Before closing this chapter, I want to emphasize that much of 'Hunt for the Skinwalker' is truly excellent. In this chapter, I’ve argued with the authors’ pre-witness history bc it gives a certain perspective to the Basin
3 "UFOs that is not supported by Garth Myers’ version - and I’ve related that the witness (Terry Sherman ~Joe) sees many inaccuracies in the book’s record of his experiences, although he confirms that the events did take place. But as I read the final chapters in [HFTS], I was
4 "deeply impressed with the extent of the NIDS’s research and the depth of thought Kelleher and Knapp put into their scientific research into what appear to be non-scientific topics. They present and discuss, with pros and cons, the various hypotheses that have been put forth
5 "to explain the UFO phenomenon. They clearly lean toward the multi-dimension, parallel universe, wormhole/portal idea."

From the Epilogue...

"Contrary to some other hot areas of UFO activity around the world, most of the Uintah Basin sightings seem to support the
6 "ET hypothesis, the idea of space machines coming to visit us and explore the Basin - or maybe even working from a secret base located there. The skinwalker ranch seems to be an exception to this generalization. Many of the strange things that were reported just don’t fit the
7 "nuts-and-bolts hypothesis. If the Basin sightings not associated with the ranch were designed to condition the residents into waiting for the friendly visitors from another solar system, could the strange skinwalkers and orange portals on the ranch be meant to condition their
8 "witnesses - and NIDS - to accept the alternative reality hypothesis? If all those things really happened, and I THINK THEY DID (~Joe's emphasis), they certainly convince me! But what is the goal of manipulating our thinking in this way?"
9 More from the Epilogue:

"In the Uintah Basin alone there are plenty of goings-on that look like magic. We may imagine that UFOs are just ahead of us in their technology, but the sudden movements and especially the disappearances often look like magic. The skinwalker [ranch]
10 "disappearances must be better than any earthly magician could accomplish - for example, the red beast vanishing even as the witness watched. And it seems like it would take pure magic to get those four huge bulls into the small shed in such a short time.
11 "Or what happened to the black shapes that were shot out of the tree? Were these things really magic, or was there some unearthly magician who knew how to use physical laws far beyond our knowledge to pull off the stunts? Contemplating such things when we are so used to
12 "our 'real world,' and perhaps even falling back on magic as an explanation, certainly challenges our sanity."

~~~

"Retaining my faith in the idea that there is no such thing as magic and trying to hold on to my sanity, I have to take this approach with the UFOs - even those
13 "on the skinwalker ranch. There must be natural laws that allow intelligent beings who know those laws to pile four huge bulls into one small shed, incinerate dogs, and disappear into thin air! If there are portals or wormholes between alternate realities, all consistent with
14 "laws that we simply don’t yet understand, it would explain many of the outlandish goings - on that so many have witnessed. This is the conclusion of Kelleher and Knapp in Skinwalker. It is presently my conclusion - although in the 1970s it led me away from a scientific
15 "approach and toward religious thinking. In 1977, at the First International UFO Congress in Chicago, J. Allan Hynek presented his thoughts in a speech 'What I really believe about UFOs.' “I do believe,' he said, 'that the UFO phenomenon as a whole is real, but I do not mean
16 Hynek: "'necessarily that it’s just one thing. We must ask whether the diversity of observed UFOs… all spring from the same basic source, as do weather phenomena, which all originate in the atmosphere' or whether they differ 'as a rain shower differs from a meteor, which in
17 Hynek: "'turn differs from a cosmic-ray shower.' We must not ask, Hynek said, what hypothesis can explain the most facts, but we must ask, which hypothesis can explain the most puzzling facts. 'There is sufficient evidence to defend both the ETI and the EDI hypothesis,' Hynek
18 "continued. As evidence for the ETI (extraterrestrial intelligence) hypothesis he mentioned, as examples, the radar cases as good evidence of something solid, and the physical-trace cases. Then he turned to defending the EDI (extradimensional intelligence) hypothesis.
19 "Besides the aspect of materialization and dematerialization, he cited the 'poltergeist' phenomena experienced by some people after a close encounter; the photographs of UFOs, sometimes on only one frame, not seen by the witnesses; the ability of some UFOs to change form right
20 "before the witnesses’ eyes; the puzzling question of telepathic communication; the fact that in close encounters of the third kind, the creatures seem to be at home in earth’s gravity and atmosphere; the sudden stillness in the presence of the craft; levitation of cars or
21 "persons; the fact that some witnesses develop psychic abilities after an encounter. 'Do we have two aspects of one phenomenon or two different sets of phenomena?' Hynek asked.

"Finally he introduced a third hypothesis.

Hynek: "I hold it entirely possible that a technology
22 Hynek: "exists that encompasses both the physical and the psychic, the material and the mental. There are stars that are millions of years older than the sun. There may be a civilization that is millions of years more advanced than man’s. We have gone from Kitty Hawk to
23 Hynek: "the moon in some seventy years, but it’s possible that a million-year-old civilization may know something that we don’t…. I hypothesize an 'M&M' technology encompassing the mental and material realms. The psychic realms, so mysterious to us today,
24 Hynek: "may be an ordinary part of an advanced technology."

~~~

Salisbury: "Could there be restrictions on what the evil ones can do, placed upon them by the more powerful good ones? My point is that those inhabitants of that 'other dimension' can be good
25 "or evil - or perhaps various stages in between. So there is another precedent for UFO manifestations. The Fatima Sun apparently served a good purpose, but there was apparently much evil exhibited by some of the inter-dimensional beings that appeared at skinwalker ranch."
26 Maybe Salisbury changed his mind between 2010 and the time he spoke with Erica? I'd love to hear a recording of their conversation/interview if Erica recorded it and still has it.
27 And if u haven't read "Hunt for the Skinwalker" by @g_knapp & Colm Kelleher, what the hell are you waiting for? There's a reason Salisbury praised it. The discussion about #UFOs & what they may represent is worth the price of admission all by itself.

amazon.com/dp/B000FCKKXU/…
28 And here's my Amazon link to Salisbury's book, which is a must for any UFO library. I'll share a quote from him in the next tweet.

amazon.com/dp/1599554054/…
30 And here's @JeremyCorbell's documentary on Skinwalker Ranch, which I really enjoyed. I was fortunate enough to attend the premiere and that's where I first met @LueElizondo. Although it was brief & I probably came across as a stalker fanboy.

amazon.com/dp/B07H5RJKXZ/…
31 Wade thru my voluminous Twitter feed. If u feel my tweets, blog & YT (& Spaces from last night!) are informative, u appreciate my effort & would like 2 help me do this FT, 24/7! 👇🏼

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31 More from Salisbury. Not something u want others 2 read if ur on record saying the paranormal aspects of SWR r fiction. Why didn't Erica L mention this last night? Glad I had a Kindle copy of FS's book handy.

"No, the Myers Ranch was most likely not a center of #UFO activity
32 "in the Uintah Basin since its earliest history. True, we can’t prove that the Myers didn’t secretly join up with the phenomenon, but that seems to be a very remote possibility. What about the second question: Does the UFO phenomenon in the Uintah Basin include what are called
33 "paranormal events such as the strange beasts, poltergeist phenomenon, and apparent passage into other 'dimensions'? Until relatively recently, there have been very few reports of such things in Junior’s files. But the events on the skinwalker ranch shout a resounding yes to
34 "this question. That’s what this chapter is all about. Furthermore, the witness [Terry Sherman ~Joe] tells me that some neighbors had similar tales to tell him - but not to tell the world at large or even Junior Hicks.
35 "Interestingly enough, [Terry Sherman's] personal response to the phenomena was not always terror, but sometimes he was deeply moved spiritually in a positive way - or in other cases he was neither afraid nor did he have any special, positive feeling, just neutral curiosity.
36 "For me, there is another tentative conclusion that comes out of the skinwalker story: It is interesting that only [Terry Sherman] & sometimes his wife were there to experience the truly bizarre events after NIDS moved in. Although the witness’s wife (Gwen) rarely visited the
37 "Bigelow Ranch, she was there to witness the transport of the bulls, stampeding of the herd, and the red beast. The NIDS team only got the 'leftovers.' Yet [Terry] tells me that they did have some impressive experiences not recorded in [Hunt for the Skinwalker]."
38 “I truly believe that #Skinwalker Ranch is a fictitious thing that is made up by a group of people. For what purpose, what gain? At the end of the day, I’m not quite sure.”

~Erica Lukes
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