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@LazarusLong13
Jul 26, 2022 • 44 tweets • 23 min read • Read on X
Speaking of the CDC - a thread on them NOT recommending masks - although an outbreak on a plane in 2021 was stopped by masks.

Per the actual monkeypox lead for the CDC.

And more - enjoy:

#MonkeypoxIsAirborne.

According to the CDC Travel department. Thank you, @jmcrookston .

"... Person to person spread is principally respiratory..."

Someone is going to try and squawk about respiratory droplets. Let's head that off at the pass.

wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowb… Image
The word is respiratory. Not respiratory droplets.

The word comes from respire.

Which comes from the Latin word "respirare."

To breathe in, and to breathe out.

I don't breathe in and out spittle. Neither do you.

We both breathe in and out aerosols. Airborne aerosols. Image
Expect that page to change now that I am notifying @CDCgov that their travel department has given the game away.

And relax. Breathe in clean air through your N95. Don't breathe in monkeypox.

(H/t @fitterhappierAJ ) Image
If there is asymptomatic transmission with a disease already suspected of airborne transmission? Odds go way up that it's airborne.

Because it moves airborne ahead of droplets. No symptoms means no coughing (no droplets).

Further tying asymptomatic transmission to monkeypox. It would be foolhardy to think this does not happen.

You might wonder why I am hammering down on this? #CoVidIsAirborne was SIGNIFICANTLY delayed due to authorities proclaiming not airborne since not asymptomatic.

Not this
time.

At the very least, even the most stubborn Benjamin Button type of science writer would concede that we should assume asymptomatic transmission is occurring.

Especially because they report what the authorities are reporting.

And the CDC as seen in an MMWR, used the
precautionary principle to euthanize those animals who might have asymptomatically transmitted monkeypox.

This was the 2003 outbreak:
cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/m… Image
This next one is an exercise in logic and an understanding of aerosols.

H/T @NjbBari3 !

Ok, noninvasive means ... See 👇

And here's the thing.

Those who were close to an animal? 80% experienced upper respiratory symptoms.

Using Occam's Razor, is it more likely the person touched the animal, then their mouth having just touched a prairie dog? Image
Or they were close enough for the concentrated cloud of near field aerosols surrounding the clustered cages, to be inhaled?

Keeping in mind, fomites, once thought to be one of the two main ways of infection of CoVid, are now relegated to the 1in 10,000 kitchen junk drawer.
Now, this is a HOT #MonkeypoxIsAirborne update.

You see, evidently they have been collaborating with Congo for a long time.

And it turns out it's airborne.

Per them.

H/t to @lavika and @sri_srikrishna .

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Of course, some will try to twist the above sneezing and coughing to mean droplet.

The key is "through the air" . And this is why you are glad that a #CoVidIsAirborne team member is now giving you the guided tour.

Because the phrase "through the air" has only one
meaning in CDC-landia.

For example, with TB. For sure known to be airborne by the CDC.

"Through the air."👇

cdc.gov/tb/publication… Image
Here is the Congo travel warning. Lots of backups to web archive.

wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices…
Another #MonkeyPoxIsAirborne Update!

H/T @DrEricDing and the US DHS.

"Humans can be contagious
before a visible rash appears and can continue shedding the virus weeks after symptoms
have dissipated. "

No symptoms means no lesions. No coughing.
dhs.gov/sites/default/…
What does that leave?

Just like CoVid, breathing, talking, laughing, etc - because it is airborne via aerosols.

And look at that, @celinegounder @benryanwriter, DHS confirming airborne aerosols

"Sources of laboratory-acquired infections include exposure to aerosols..." Image
The CDC should just write this thread on #MonkeypoxIsAirborne .

"... Wear a well-fitting mask..."

You don't need a mask for lesions or fomites.

You don't need a well-fitting mask for droplets.

You only need a well-fitting mask for airborne.

Image
This is getting embarrassing.

How is a smaller Anon account just beating the daylights out of the @CDCgov with their own words, over and over?

BTW, @CDCgov, in the linked doc, why not just recommend N95s?

There is no shortage.

Hmm.. let me put it in terms you can
understand.

@3M, a multinational corporation, will make more money if you actually say "N95."

(No offense intended 3M... Love your products, but when you speak to 5 year olds, you have to use words they understand.)
Yet another source for #MonkeyPoxIsAirborne.

Dynamed. A point of care solution by physicians for physicians.
dynamed.com/condition/orth… Image
Another update for #MonkeyPoxIsAirborne.

H/t @citlanx.

@celinegounder along with Benjamin has been pointing to the mostly MSM network of transmission as proof positive that it's not airborne.

As I have pointed out, it's just in that network.
Eventually, it will branch out.
You know the phrase - if you don't know your history, you will be doomed to repeat it?

Back in 2008, everyone was reporting that the drug-resistant MRSA was relegated to the MSM network.

And it was. For example, the @nytimes itself reported that MRSA was isolated to gay men.
archive.ph/ZNjAc

"A separate part of the study found that gay men in San Francisco were about 13 times more likely to be infected than other people in the city."

I am grateful that @apoorva_nyc has been reporting the possibilities of airborne transmission
in the NYTimes - even in the face of pushback from the CDC Director.

This MSRA history might be handy, Ms. Mandavilli.
archive.ph/Ftkc2d

Because there is no more mention of MSM with MRSA.

Sometime in the near future, certain parties will take a
mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi…
a break from Twitter. The CDC's website (am I the only one who views the focus on MSM as homophobic?) will be quietly redacted.
Welcome to the #MonkeypoxIsAirborne thread, @RougeMatisse

Excellent thread disconnecting sexual activity from Monkeypox.

Keep in mind - when we engage in sexual activity, our respiration rate increases - which means we see an increase in intake of aerosols.

Masters and Johnson had some classic work embedded in this study - the whole thing was fascinating.
sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1016/s0002-…
I haven't found any studies actually documenting the production of aerosols during sex - would love to give a H/t and include you in the thread if you know of one.

Given that the Gesundheit 2 might be ergonomically difficult to work with during sexual activity? Image
Another #MonkeyPoxIsAirborne update.

I almost feel sorry for
@benryanwriter @celinegounder as the onslaught of non-MSM cases begins.

You two probably won't watch it all the way through, but yep.... she shared that it's also airborne.

tiktok.com/t/ZTRUfTThX/?k…
I've just deleted a tweet where I stated that Monkeypox is only handled at BSL4 labs - that was incorrect.

The law does state that:
law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/73…

But, there was a caveat not viewable on that page, but over here is citation #4.

selectagents.gov/sat/list.htm

My apologies! Image
#MonkeyPoxisAirborne - because we breathe it out through - even when there are NO lesions present.

If lesions are present, then it's even more airborne due to those nasty little skin flakes.

Mask up, folks.
#MonkeyPoxIsAirborne - via a saliva test that correctly predicted the infected.

Huh?

Please bear with me.

Excellent results for saliva test:
medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

This is huge for ring vaccination strategies.

Also, huge for airborne. 5 of 22 had no symptoms at the Image
time of test. 23%.

4 of the 5 did not have symptoms AT THE TIME. Which meant they went on to develop symptoms.

And yet they tested positive.

The authors nailed it as a concern.

Most likely - if you can test for it? You can spread it.

Mask it up! Image
#MonkeypoxIsAirborne because fomites are very rare.

"Only about 0.2% of people have caught the virus through contact with contaminated material, according to a recent report from the WHO."

Which suddenly make the sorts of reports in the next tweet?

statnews.com/2022/08/10/wha…
Make you realize it's airborne.

A Six Flags worker caught it just by walking by his coworker.

Image
#MonkeypoxIsAirborne - because NHS from the UK says its spread by coughing or sneezing. Which as we all know is accompanied by turbulent clouds of aerosols.

Which are airborne. This is for sneezing - coughing has the same basic mechanism.

nhs.uk/conditions/mon… Image
As always - there are many forms of transmission with monkeypox. Though as we saw above, thanks to the WHO, actual fomite-based infection is far below .5% of cases.

"A new airborne Ebola-like viral disease, referred to as ‘Monkeypox’ has hit the Niger Delta University Teaching Hospital."

"They said the symptoms of the disease include...cough.."

H/t @mdc_martinus for:
guardian.ng/news/monkey-po…

H/t @Iamgoingtosleep for the top qt and pic. Image
A mystery infection. How, oh how, could he have been infected?

#MonkeypoxIsAirborne. Second study this progression has been observed.

Enters respiratory. Then to lymph, the off to the races, and finally the lesions on the skin.

H/t @beansprouts_mom

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"BUT, BUT, measles can infect up to 90% of people they are in contact with!"

So can COVID.

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Remember THAT scene from Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman - "It's Airborne." ?

SARS-COV-2 is airborne via HVAC. Just like TB is - but it is way more contagious.

Still no panic, right? We know how to be safe.

Motel 6, or AirBNB - no shared HVAC, is best.

But HOW do we know?

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Plaque, Stephan's Curve (Imperative) mixed with breakfasts that you can brush immediately after.

It's actually best if you brush immediately up on waking up. This gets the overnight plaque.

It starts forming 4-6 hours after you sleep - your saliva is 20 millititers/hr Dental Plaque on the bristles of a used toothbrush. Yep, that came out of your mouth.
- during the day. At night? Just 3-6 ml.

Saliva washes away the bacteria, it contains bicarbonate, phosphate, and protein buffers that neutralize the acids being pooped out by the bacteria.

It also has the below ingredients. Who knew saliva was so cool?!

Or plaque? Antimicrobial Components Lysozyme: breaks down bacterial cell walls. Lactoferrin: binds iron, starving bacteria. Peroxidases: inhibit bacterial metabolism. Immunoglobulin A (IgA): prevents bacterial adhesion to teeth.
Plauque forming bacteria.
By brushing first thing, fluoridating, and then waiting a 1/2 hour before eating, you just prepped your teeth for their Acid Trip through the day.

Like if you like salsa on your breakfast burrito like I do.

But what is a good breakfast if you have NO TIME to wait for the 60 tripping the light fantastic.
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Ah, it's that time of year again. The pitter patter of children's feet. The laughter of high school students as they flirt with each other.

The coughs of their parents.

Is a Portable Air Cleaner (PAC) on a desk aimed at the wee ones' faces going to protect them? Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High with a Levoit Air Cleaner pointing at his face braced up with a weight. In the middle of his pizza. Not cool, man, not cool.
TLDR? No. They need to be in a N95 or KF94 purchased from legit distributors, not from Amazon, and eat their food outdoors, spaced far enough away from their friends so as not get infected. Or use @sipmask and protein shakes at lunch in the cafetaria.

You need to teach them
about how it can take as little as one breath of uncleaned-air to get infected (100 virions study on my profile). How it can mess them up in terms of their entire body.

You need to have the "Birds and the Bees and Covid" talk, in other words.

But will a PAC aimed at their
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People often underestimate the power of having someone with the reputation of Wolfgang Leitner, weighing in.

This is truly a significant development.

Personally, I prefer to let the studies do their own talking, but Voice Of Authority bears considerable weight in the real world
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Calley is lying from the very first sentence. The media is not cheering for MAHA to fail. They are cheering for antivaxxers to fail.

We all want to see better food, less chemicals.

But we are not idiots.

The single largest gain in American life expectancy was
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And vaccines are a close second - adding 5-10 years a bit later - in the last half of the century.

If we get rid of vaccines? We lose 5 to 26 years, depending
if we lose smallpox and diptheria.

There's another thing. Calley wants us working on the below things.

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