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Jul 28 10 tweets 4 min read
Asymptomatic transmission of CoVid. Remember that discovery?

That was it! Everyone knew it had to be airborne. No symptoms means no coughing, and no droplets.

Airborne.

A quick thread on 3 asymptomatic transmission cases.... of Monkeypox.
Let's go to Belgium!

Specifically, a large Belgium STI clinic. They tested swabs collected back in May.
And found 3 individuals who tested positive for monkeypox.

No symptoms. But had monkeypox.

How do we interpret this? Let's let the author do the honors.
Close contacts can transmit with no symptoms.

So, how does the virus get from one person to the other?

Nobody says and sprays it, that much.

Nobody licking doorknobs.

But friends chatting by the water cooler? Exchanging aerosols?

Happens all the time.
Thanks to @fitterhappierAJ for the intro picture.

Preprint (usual caveats):
medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

Thank you to @IrithItm, I believe, who appears to be one of the authors of a fascinating study.

That may just have changed the world for a little bit better.
Thank you, and welcome to the thread, as I did not know that!

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Thank you for the further evidence of Monkeypox asymptomatic patients!

Given that SARS1, Influenza, CoVid, chickenpox, measles, etc all have transmission either presymptomatically or asymptomatically?

Monkeypox will also fit in there, too.

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Jul 29
Quick thread on an immunologist who just put the mask back on.
There is no herd immunity with CoVid. The more times YOU get infected, the WORSE your outcomes. Image
The vaccines can't keep up. Image
Read 6 tweets
Jul 29
So, while working on a thread of how well mask mandates work, I realized that I needed to set the record straight.

The record, being the NYTimes, and @DLeonhardt's homage to antimasking.

Note - he did not cite one single mask mandate study in his actual article.

Not one. Image
Article backed up to here:
archive.ph/SURzo

Jumping to the meat and potatoes -

"The evidence suggests that broad mask mandates have not done much to reduce Covid caseloads over the past two years. " Image
Let's take a look at his "evidence."

He links to his own opinion piece, first, saying as evidence, that,

"In U.S. cities where mask use has been more common, Covid has spread at a similar rate as in mask-resistant cities. " Image
Read 17 tweets
Jul 28
Retweeted by @CollignonPeter?

Ah, Australia, I'm sorry.

This is a shite study. When some random anon (me), can look at the study and go,

"Couldn't these results also be explained by single adults going out on the town more often?"

(Yes.)

Then, to look at the details /1
"matching with a novel COVID-19 risk score as a propensity variable"

Ugh. Novel in these contexts is the same as nCoV-19 (First n stands for "novel").

Not good. Not saying it's jimmied up to get the results they wanted, but... Not a fan of these shenanigans.
And @ShamezLadhani @CollignonPeter ?

"our results should be considered hypothesis-generating and not definitive. "

So, to say, " yet some still want to keep kids isolated…🤷🏻‍♂️"?

Nice definitive red herring.
Read 4 tweets
Jul 27
#MarsburgVirusIsAirborne
#MVDisAirborne
#MARVisAirborne

Logically, mechanistically, and as shown in studies.

This pic below? The WHO is trying to get ahead of this one.

Unfortunately, for them, scholar.google.com has the right stuff to blow down their house of cards.
A little dark humor to start, because, really, how many lies do we have to catch them in?

(As always, I am fan of public health. Not a fan of political health as the CDC is under Walensky and Redfield).

First study...

Approximately 90 minute viability in the usual Goldberg drum. At a very rough glance because this first step of the dance is boring.

Anywho, MVD is not very stable, thankfully.

As seen below, aerosol transmission possible.

mdpi.com/1999-4915/14/4…
Read 19 tweets
Jul 26
Let's take a second and observe that it's still early in the CoVid pandemic, and we could still snuff it out - assuming the CDC and WHO are giving us the right tools.

Oops, meant to say Monkeypox.

Let's take a look at the most important tool that they are not giving us.
First off, Monkeypox is airborne. Period. Go back to the first tweet if any doubts.

I welcome debate on this topic, so pipe up.

How does the CDC tell us to avoid monkeypox?

Not one word about masks.

(H/T @0bj3ctivity for the idea of this 🧵).

cdc.gov/poxvirus/monke…
Huh. What did THE CDC monkeypox expert, Dr. Andrea McCollum say about masks, previously?

In an article titled, "COVID-19 Masks Helped Thwart Monkeypox Outbreak, Expert Says, " she said masks helped.

Just to clarify, droplets do not take time to work. Aerosols do.
Read 9 tweets
Jul 26
So... Unless a CO had sex with an inmate, which is not entirely implausible, we gonna say it's airborne, yet?
Getting some push-back - fair enough.

Let me detail farther why this a bigger deal than you think.

We only need to turn to how they deal with CoVid - which or may not be airborne to Shrodinger's @CDCgov .

Now, MPX is supposedly not airborne? Where

injusticewatch.org/news/prisons-a…
could we find
another example of a jail not treating an airborne disease as if it's airborne?
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