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Sep 7 36 tweets 10 min read
1 In ur 1st part, u said Garth Myers, brother of Kenneth Myers, who owed the ranch with his wife, Edith, before the Shermans, told Frank Salisbury, "...there were never any signs of that [#UFOs & similar activity]. There was nothing, unequivocally nothing. There were no UFOs."
2 You left out what Uintah County, Retired Sheriff, Kris Porritt, said in SOSR. @BrandonFugal told u about this, repeatedly. Porritt spoke about his direct interactions he claims he had w/Kenneth Myers. Why not let ur viewers know about this so they could judge his credibility?
5 Ur Garth Myers quotes were from, "The Utah UFO Display" by Frank Salisbury. You also added these quotes from the book:

Salisbury: "I assumed the authors had interviewed [the Shermans] extensively to get the stories right. [Sherman] didn't even know a book was being written
6 Salisbury: "about his family's experiences until Hunt for the Skinwalker was published! And had never met @g_knapp, although they had talked on the phone (but not about the book). [Sherman] basically supports Garth Myers' version of the history of the ranch."
7 Salisbury: "So where did the exaggerated version - the ranch as center of UFO activity - come from?"

You then point out that neither Knapp nor Colm Kelleher would speak with you.

Here's the clip so folks can see if I misrepresented what you said.

8 What u DIDN'T tell ur viewers was what else Salisbury said in the revised version of his book.

I'll include all of my text from previous tweets from July 4th, 2022. Notice @Go_Kick_Rocks88 was part of that thread and she never spoke up or questioned anything about your vid.
9 Last night on Spaces, hosted by @Go_Kick_Rocks88,
@ericalukesuap said when she spoke to biologist, Frank Salisbury, author of, "The Utah #UFO Display," he told her he didn't think anything anomalous took place on Skinwalker Ranch. She can correct me if I got that wrong.
10 A few excerpts from Salisbury's (2010 edition) book:

"Before closing this chapter, I want to emphasize that much of 'Hunt for the Skinwalker' is truly excellent. In this chapter, I’ve argued with the authors’ pre-witness history bc it gives a certain perspective to the Basin
11 "UFOs that is not supported by Garth Myers’ version - & I’ve related that the witness (Terry Sherman ~Joe) sees many inaccuracies in the book’s record of his experiences, although [Sherman] CONFIRMS THAT THE EVENTS DID TAKE PLACE. But as I read the final chapters in [HFTS], I
12 "was deeply impressed with the extent of the NIDS’s research & the depth of thought Kelleher and Knapp put into their scientific research into what appear to be non-scientific topics. They present and discuss, with pros and cons, the various hypotheses that have been put forth
13 "to explain the UFO phenomenon. They clearly lean toward the multi-dimension, parallel universe, wormhole/portal idea."

From the Epilogue...

"Contrary to some other hot areas of UFO activity around the world, most of the Uintah Basin sightings seem to support the
14 "ET hypothesis, the idea of space machines coming to visit us and explore the Basin - or maybe even working from a secret base located there. The Skinwalker Ranch seems to be an exception to this generalization. Many of the strange things that were reported just don’t fit the
15 "nuts-and-bolts hypothesis. If the Basin sightings not associated with the ranch were designed to condition the residents into waiting for the friendly visitors from another solar system, could the strange skinwalkers and orange portals on the ranch be meant to condition their
16 "witnesses - and NIDS - to accept the alternative reality hypothesis? If all those things really happened, and I THINK THEY DID (~Joe's emphasis), they certainly convince me! But what is the goal of manipulating our thinking in this way?"
17 More from the Epilogue:

"In the Uintah Basin alone there are plenty of goings-on that look like magic. We may imagine that UFOs are just ahead of us in their technology, but the sudden movements and especially the disappearances often look like magic. The skinwalker [ranch]
18 "disappearances must be better than any earthly magician could accomplish - for example, the red beast vanishing even as the witness watched. And it seems like it would take pure magic to get those four huge bulls into the small shed in such a short time.
19 "Or what happened to the black shapes that were shot out of the tree? Were these things really magic, or was there some unearthly magician who knew how to use physical laws far beyond our knowledge to pull off the stunts? Contemplating such things when we are so used to
20 "our 'real world,' and perhaps even falling back on magic as an explanation, certainly challenges our sanity."

~~~

"Retaining my faith in the idea that there is no such thing as magic and trying to hold on to my sanity, I have to take this approach with the UFOs - even those
21 "on the skinwalker ranch. There must be natural laws that allow intelligent beings who know those laws to pile four huge bulls into one small shed, incinerate dogs, and disappear into thin air! If there are portals or wormholes between alternate realities, all consistent with
22 "laws that we simply don’t yet understand, it would explain many of the outlandish goings - on that so many have witnessed. This is the conclusion of Kelleher and Knapp in Skinwalker. It is presently my conclusion - although in the 1970s it led me away from a scientific
23 "approach and toward religious thinking. In 1977, at the First International UFO Congress in Chicago, J. Allan Hynek presented his thoughts in a speech 'What I really believe about UFOs. I do believe,' he said, 'that the UFO phenomenon as a whole is real, but I do not mean
24 Hynek: "'necessarily that it’s just one thing. We must ask whether the diversity of observed UFOs… all spring from the same basic source, as do weather phenomena, which all originate in the atmosphere' or whether they differ 'as a rain shower differs from a meteor, which in
25 Hynek: "'turn differs from a cosmic-ray shower.' We must not ask, Hynek said, what hypothesis can explain the most facts, but we must ask, which hypothesis can explain the most puzzling facts. 'There is sufficient evidence to defend both the ETI and the EDI hypothesis,' Hynek
26 "continued. As evidence for the ETI (extraterrestrial intelligence) hypothesis he mentioned, as examples, the radar cases as good evidence of something solid, and the physical-trace cases. Then he turned to defending the EDI (extradimensional intelligence) hypothesis.
27 "Besides the aspect of materialization and dematerialization, he cited the 'poltergeist' phenomena experienced by some people after a close encounter; the photographs of UFOs, sometimes on only one frame, not seen by the witnesses; the ability of some UFOs to change form right
28 "before the witnesses’ eyes; the puzzling question of telepathic communication; the fact that in close encounters of the third kind, the creatures seem to be at home in earth’s gravity and atmosphere; the sudden stillness in the presence of the craft; levitation of cars or
29 "persons; the fact that some witnesses develop psychic abilities after an encounter. 'Do we have two aspects of one phenomenon or two different sets of phenomena?' Hynek asked.

"Finally he introduced a third hypothesis.

Hynek: "I hold it entirely possible that a technology
30 Hynek: "exists that encompasses both the physical and the psychic, the material and the mental. There are stars that are millions of years older than the sun. There may be a civilization that is millions of years more advanced than man’s. We have gone from Kitty Hawk to
31 Hynek: "the moon in some seventy years, but it’s possible that a million-year-old civilization may know something that we don’t…. I hypothesize an 'M&M' technology encompassing the mental and material realms. The psychic realms, so mysterious to us today,
32 Hynek: "may be an ordinary part of an advanced technology."

~~~

Salisbury: "Could there be restrictions on what the evil ones can do, placed upon them by the more powerful good ones? My point is that those inhabitants of that 'other dimension' can be good
33 "or evil - or perhaps various stages in between. So there is another precedent for UFO manifestations. The Fatima Sun apparently served a good purpose, but there was apparently much evil exhibited by some of the inter-dimensional beings that appeared at skinwalker ranch."
34 Maybe Salisbury changed his mind between 2010 and the time he spoke with Erica? I'd love to hear a recording of their conversation/interview if Erica recorded it and still has it.
35 And if u haven't read "Hunt for the Skinwalker" by
@g_knapp & Colm Kelleher, what the hell are you waiting for? There's a reason Salisbury praised it. The discussion about #UFOs & what they may represent is worth the price of admission all by itself.

amazon.com/dp/B000FCKKXU/…
36 And here's my Amazon link to Salisbury's book, which is a must for any UFO library. I'll share a quote from him in the next tweet.

amazon.com/dp/1599554054/…
38 So, Steven, while I wouldn't expect u to include the Hynek quotes, the Salisbury info. about Sherman's thoughts on "Hunt for the Skinwalker" & Salisbury's thoughts on said book & ranch, are extremely relevant to the point u were trying to make. And u left all of it out. Why?

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