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Sep 16 • 7 tweets • 3 min read
#INDOLOGISTS Speaking Sanscreet 🗣

Indian accent is typically made fun of in Western popular culture

Lets reverse the gaze

Any non-native English/French Prof. is expected to have near-native language skill-levels

Can Indologists speak CORRECT Sanskrit with उच्चारणशुद्धिः?
संस्कृतम् emphasizes उच्चारणशुद्धिः -right pronunciation

Wrong pronunciation changes the meaning!

An entire science- शिक्षा - teaches Phonetics/Phonology

Right enunciation is a basic requirement from anyone claiming expertise in Sanskrit

Check out the Sanscreet gate-keepers! ImageImage
#१ Antonia Ruppel, Sanskrit PhD. Author of Cambridge Introduction to Sanskrit

Check out her Sanskrit pronunciation

Is there room for substantial improvement?

ऋ ऌ etc
त्रयानाम् for त्रयाणाम् ->णत्वम् completely missing!
तकारः
HalanTa
Viraama
Aarjuna

OK for a teaching Prof ?
#२ “Vedic” Wendy Doniger

Wendy is claimed by acolytes to be able to speak ‘Vedic’

While a full sentence from her in spoken Sanscreet is rare as the blue moon, full-on mutilation of तकारः & ध in English speeches are aplenty

giTTa
mahabaraTTA
Art-a-shasTTra
Daarma
CamaSuTTRA
#३

Sheldon ‘Shelley’ Pollock - the GREATEST contemporary Indological Sanscreetist

Learnt Sanscreet + Old Kannada in India

His embarrassing mugged-up effort compares poorly with a SB weekend student’s spoken Sanskrit!

anu-ghsghr-stosmi !
DHHatHUm!
veeralanam
😂
#४

Now scraping the bottom of the barrel, rather the trashcan!

Check out Prof. ‘I know Sanscreet/mayku sab Sanscreet aati hai’ fame

Empty vanity is only trumped by lack of self-reflection & neuronal density!

Check out the various gems!

PARASI for Prasika!
raummundeer
daul
अनुवर्तते।

To be continued 😂

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प्वालः । pvaal Profile picture
Sep 17
सम्प्रति will end this topic with these thoughts

१ Effort certainly gets a B. We are not closed-minded bigots 😃

२ When you do Sanskrit, do as how the tradition expects you to do. Stop whining. No short cuts ‘cuz we r white’

३ Standards will be maintained. Tradition respected
३ If you claim expertise in Sanskrit, esp. as a Prof; there is a duty to ask for proof. You better show it

४ If you are rude & culturally disrespectful, expect action on the other cheek. शठे शाठ्यं समाचरेत्

५ If you throw in ideology/politics/identity crap, expect a response
६ Hindoo nationalism/fascism/caste will engender Kristin/nazi/racism/genocide counters. AVOID

७ Reflexive ganging-up (how dare these darkies?) -will get same coin back

८ Accents can be different. No Problem. But errors are errors

ददाति is NOT दधाति

त्रीणि is NOT Tree-ny
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Aug 24
An instructive vignette showcasing academic & ideological bias inherent in western ‘studies’ of eastern culture

Heres a PhD 😄 asking for etymology of “घण्टा” inscribed on an old Javanese bell

घण्टा as a word is used for bell in Ramayana & has an attested Sanskrit etymology
This galactic brain asks ‘what is the origin of the Sanskrit word घण्टा’

On seeing that Sanskrit घण्टा has a clear etymology, says

‘No, I would like PIE since Sanskrit is from PIE

Or BMAC/Dravidian or Prakrit’

Anything OTHER than Sanskrit itself which has attested etymology
Now this ‘scholar’ of Old Javanese goes on a tangent with accusations of ‘religion/nationalism’!

‘What about earlier origins’?

Sure, but where is the attestation?

‘Why not PIE’?

PIE is un-attested, an academic reconstruction

‘I don’t care for the Sanskrit-centred thing’!
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Aug 2
Re: Ashtadhyayi & Panini referencing coinage in India in the context of language / grammar usage

“India as Known to Panini” by V S Agrawala has extensive notes on the attested sophistication in financial currency pre-500 BCE
Multiple gold & silver coinage are referred to in both Ashtadhyayi related texts & even earlier

निष्क। सुवर्ण।माषक।कार्षपण
Multiple Sutras exist referencing the usage

५।१।२० असमासे निष्कादिभ्यः

५।१।३० द्वित्रिपूर्वान्निष्कात्

५।२।११९ शतसहस्रान्ताच्च निष्कात्

Crorepatis & Billionaires existed 😂

उदाहरणार्थम्।

व्योममहोदयः @harivyoma नैष्कशतकः अस्ति।

पतङ्गः @patangaha नैष्कसहस्रिकः अस्ति।
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Jul 24
#संस्कृतम् - Incredible flexibility of the देवभाषा।

Pancharatram is a Mahabharata based play by Bhasa involving Pandavas & Kauravas

The first stanza goes thus

द्रोणः पृथिव्यर्जुनभीमदूतो
यः कर्णधारः शकुनीस्वरस्य
दुर्योधनो भीष्मयुधिष्ठिरः स
पायाद् विराडुत्तरगौऽभिमन्युः।
For those who find it difficult to read Samskritam with Sandhi, the terms in the invocatory verse are

द्रोण - पृथिवी - अर्जुन - भीम - दूत - य - कर्ण - धार - शकुनी - ईश्वर - दुर्योधन - भीष्म - युधिष्ठिर - स - पायाद् - विराड् - उत्तरग - अभिमन्यु
The नान्दी or the invocatory verse says this

👇🏼
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Jul 24
This thread by @dxrsam_0 is a good one to highlight Indological shenanigans in ‘historicizing’ पुराणम् & इतिहासः - thereby stripping out all that is sacred

Indology wants to destroy something explicitly designed for मोक्षप्राप्तिः & convert it to a sterile academic quibble
The traditional भारतीय view on पुराण/इतिहास is quite clear

Unlike western epics, इतिहासः are explicitly designed to embody Dharma & helping one move towards Moksha

Vedas are प्रभुसम्मित while Puranas are SuhrdSammita (instructions of a friend) & Kavyas are KantaSammita
Indology claims ALL texts are corrupted

However, traditional Indology process of stripping out ‘layers’ & additions via ‘text historic criticism’ to find the ‘original’ has been beaten to death

See below for historical context
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May 18
An excellent illustration of how today’s educated Indians are cut off from our own roots via lack of exposure to own cultural knowledge & access to संस्कृतम् !

विश्लेषणं करिष्यामः।

Claim:
Rajatharangini records wide-spread destruction of Viharas

Bonus:
Dollop of sarcasm😀
Where might be the potential sources of such a claim?

E.g: Marxist historian D N Jha claims this ‘historical fact’ in Against the Grain

Referred by Ajaz Ashraf in Scroll.in warning us re: how school children can learn about ‘Religious Violence in Ancient India”
Jha refers to 2 kings जलौकः & नरः {Jalauka।Nara} against whom Rajatarangini documents ‘solid proof’ of religious violence

This taints the entire ‘hindutva’ project to this day! ह हन्त!🤡😂

Lets go to the originals & check what Kalhana himself says about these Hindutva fiends!
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