final town-hall session still many in audience after very full @TbilisiZeg day.
Ukraine, the broader context, notes on caution & context & reflections.
"are we here today because there wasn't a Nuremburg trial for the Soviets?", asks @antelava w reference to comment by Giga Bokeria that there hasn't been enough of a reckoning with the crimes of communism. @TbilisiZeg
maybe not so much Nuremburg, but "West" could & should have paid much more attention to what happened earlier in Chechnya, etc., so some hope that this focuses minds on such crimes in the future, says @AnnaNeistat
"to choose to be Ukrainian means that you think the Soviet Union is a bad thing", says @yarotrof. In Yugoslavia, you could not choose to be Serb or Croat, in UKR, you could decide -- as Zelensky, from Russian speaking family, chose Ukrainian.
END -- @antelava asks organizers & volunteers on stage, for a round of applause.
Lots of themes raised, fortunately still reception to chat!
AND:
announcing next the next ZEG Festival for June 9-11, 2023 in #Tbilisi.
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today, EthnoFest in #Tbilisi (alas only realized it happening late afternoon), with plenty of great things you can get if you
-- enjoy #crafts
-- want to support local business, or
-- are thinking abt gifts already
Below some of my favourites. 1/n
This won the overall prize (congrats!!!) & was my favourite: fairly simple, evocative of #Tbilisi & #Batumi#architecture, nice #lighting addition somewhere in a flat, neat product. 2/n
"how do you approach your work of holding people accountable? Do you look for patterns?" @avalaina & @AnnaNeistat describe how they assemble evidence, but the question: for who? So many cases, worry that only a few will/can be prosecuted. #WarCrimes
"some of the work is v frustrating, I interviewed hundreds of people, who were tortured, raped, nails pulled, and you *know* at same time many others are suffering, so question is how to stop perpetrators now" #Ukraine@avalaina
keeping attention has an impact -- opinion polls show the public support in West is there, often ahead of governments, and this matters on the ground. In some cases, supporting even increasing, says @yarotrof at @TbilisiZeg
we were preparing for UKR conflict from "this time last year", when invasion started, we were there, several teams, says @RachelCorpTweet, the scale & size, also of refugees, still took everyone by surprise & sending in teams safely a challenge.
Forgotten Wars, Open Wounds -- @NorthAndrew and @saadmohseni abt the conflicts that we do not pay attention to. #Georgia slipping from minds; Iraq protests in 2019; Afghanistan now.
Third session in @TbilisiZeg in #Tbilisi.
.@saadmohseni In Afghanistan, "we paid a very heavy price for the victory over Soviets", the question I ask about #Ukraine -- how will this end? "The American have been very fickle."
"It's easy to cheer from the sidelines, but people get killed. We have been seeing that play out in our own lives in 44 years of war."
(In my view: fair point, but UKR is & wants to be in Europe, and that does matter.) #zeg22
"Rethinking Colonialism" in context of #Ukraine, w @yermolenko_v, John Lee Anderson @peterpomeranzev moderated by Nino Japiashvili, parallel session, crowded room.
.@yermolenko_v Western colonialism was overseas, emphasized difference, RU colonialism was on land, and the domination was based on claim of sameness, "you are unable to be different", therefore focus on #memory, we are only in the beginning of analyzing this. #Ukraine
"dragging people down into the a state of sameness" also as theme for @peterpomeranzev , as illustrated by the cellars as a theme of war in Ukraine: in which people hide, survive; get tortured & killed; Russia has not been able to be deal with its own traumas & ends up repeating.
"Outside the Western Bubble" - 2nd session @Raniaab and @catapluma, moderated by Jon Lee Anderson.
Anderson: the RU narrative is there & has hold in Latin America & other locations.
Via Chavez, recounting how self-described anti-imperialists want multipolar world. @TbilisiZeg
in mid-2000s, many countries very much looking to Iraq as precedent, aggressive GWB posture, says Anderson, felt they needed to counterbalance American hegemony.
(This as backdrop to how situation seen now.) #Zeg22
many places feel neglected, Iraq, commodities being bought by China, disregard, this explains in part why narrative is sticking, Anderson. #Zeg22