OK - emergency motion against NYC Mayor Adams' plan for mentally ill homeless is now being heard @SDNYLIVE innercitypress.com/sdny23crottyba… Inner City Press will live tweet, thread below
Judge: The City says what was done by the Mayor is an application of existing law --
Petitioners' lawyer: Not so. Now a police officer, who is not a mental health professional, can involuntarily detain.
City's lawyer: Petitioners are out of line. This was supposed to be discovery conference. Now it seems they are requesting, today, a TRO [Temporary Restraining Order]. But I'm happy to speak to the mertis.
Judge: I wish you would.
City's lawyer: Police are authorized to take people into custody if they appear mentally unfit -
Judge: How is the previous policy different from the Mayor's statement of November-
City's lawyer: This has been the policy for decades. The Mayor only added training
City's lawyer: If they are conducting themselves in a manner that poses a danger of serious danger. Plaintiffs make false allegations that the City is authorizing its officers to take people into custody for being mentally ill. That's not the case.
City's lawyer: It's true Mayor Adams talked at a press conference about a man shadow boxing in the street. But that's just a comment. Plaintiffs want to require imminent violence. But that's not the law. They're just making it up.
City's lawyer: Plaintiffs don't have standing. There's no evidence anyone has been taken into custody --
Judge: What about Mr. Green's statement?
City's lawyer: That's just fear, based on past experience. That does not create standing.
City's lawyer: Just the fact that these organization do advocacy from the mentally ill does not give them standing. This motion is without jurisdiction. There is no emergency.
Petitioners' lawyer: The City is reinterpreting, that led to the press conference
Judge: Is it a change from the existing policy of the State Commissioner of Mental Health?
Petitioners' lawyer: Yes. The Patron Guide says imminent harm.
City's lawyer: That's false. Plaintiffs take offense at this definition, a person temporarily deranged
City's lawyer: Imminent danger is not required under 9.41. People can be cared for... The Mayor found that the policy wasn't being enforced... There's nobody in this room like that...
Judge: What are you reading from?
City's lawyer: Plaintiffs' Exhibit 1.
Judge: Has the state mental health law changed?
Counsel: No.
Judge: The City is in compliance with the state law?
Petitioners' lawyer: We say no - they are misapplying state law.
City's lawyer: Not meeting their needs might cause them to be a danger
Judge: Doesn't the City have to comply with state law?
City's lawyer: It's only guidance.
Judge: What's wrong with them making a motion in the pending lawsuit?
City's lawyer: This is a new issue. It's not relevant to the existing claims. There is no time travel
City's lawyer: They are asking your Honor to order that the police cannot carry out state law. That's not relief they are entitled to. It's not an emergency, not even for emergency discovery.
Judge: Should the plaintiffs amend their complaint?
City's lawyer: Yes
Petitioners' lawyer: Mr. Greene has been harmed by the policy about to change --
Judge: How can you say it is about to change?
Petitioners' lawyer: He is walking the streets of New York with a mental disability and -
Judge: But we can agree it hasn't happened yet
City's lawyer: The Mayor's statement says these are indicia: unawareness or delusion... Incapable of meeting human needs, an incoherent person. The plaintiffs want the City to let people starve to death --
Jduge Crotty (former NYC official): Please. (Groans)
Petitioners' lawyer: Is mumbling to oneself enough? This is a dangerous lowering of standard.
Judge: The policeman only decides about transport to hospital.
City's lawyer: The police have been called on to make this determination for decades. Somebody has to do it
Judge: Your point of view is that nothing was changed by Mayor Adams' press conference?
City's lawyer: Correct.
Judge Crotty: Then what was the purpose of the press conference?
City's lawyer: Mayor Adams wanted existing law used to the further extent. Here's a hypothetical: I saw a man walking around on the tracks. I didn't ask why. But the police could.
Judge: Anyone could ask that question.
City's lawyer: Police could order transport
Judge: How many police officers have received this training?
City's lawyer: There was no training in the initiative before the initiative was announced. There are materials I haven't brought with me...
City's lawyer: The Finest Message is the most that most police officers would have seen about the policy. We are rolling out training this week.
Judge: How long will it take?
City's lawyer: I don't know. Last I checked we have 30,000 people in the Department.
City's lawyer: The purpose is to tell the police, you don't have to wait.
Petitioners' lawyer: They are moving quickly.
Judge: The Mayor believes he's doing a good thing for the people with, uh, mental disease
Petitioners' lawyer: They say, an incoherent person... So a person who is mumbling can be involuntarily committed to a hospital.
Judge: They say that's been the policy in the past.
Petitioners' lawyer: The Mayor has announced a change to the Patrol Guide
Petitioners' lawyer: Mr. Greene is no longer going out of his house, out of fear of being taken into custody.
City's lawyer: Nobody has standing. These organization say on their website they want police out of mental health.
A 2d petitioners' lawyer: Community Access has standing, diversion resources to advocate. Mr. Greene lives in supportive housing, he believes he is vulnerable to police under this new policy.
Judge Crotty: I'll have a decision for you shortly.
[When?] story soon
Addendum: After Judge Crotty said decision soon, 3d petitioners' lawyer Mr Moore bring up "all the way back to Eleanor Bumpurs" case in the Bronx.
City's lawyer: Their complaint is 350 paragraphs & doesn't ask for a preliminary injunction. We've moved to dismiss.
As Judge Crotty leaves the courtroom, in-box from @ManhattanDA: "Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. today announced indictment of JONATHAN FRIAS, 28, for striking an MTA contract worker with a metal pipe while she worked on a Lower Manhattan subway platform last month" #timing
We are waiting for Judge Crotty to return and rule.
In the interim, digging into the docket, it seems
1st plaintiffs' lawyer is Luna Droubi; with NYLPI, Ruth Lowenkron.
NYC's lead lawyer: Alan Howard Scheiner.
Drum roll.
last update before story: Running back up to the courtroom from checking the docket for the lawyers' names, turns out Judge Crotty is NOT going to return and rule, he's taken it "under advisement" and will rule in writing. We'll watch the docket. Watch this feed.

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