A minor tremor in Independent Charismatic-land this month that shows the uncertainty of this post-/mid-Trumpian moment: Mario Murillo, 1 of the big 4 panelists on Kenneth Copeland's "Flashpoint" declared (via blog) he was taking a hiatus from the show. mariomurillo.org/2023/01/17/mar… 1/
Murillo is a big deal. He's a respected Evangelist. He was the preacher who Bill Johnson credits with actually converting a young Bill. Murillo's been around for decades, but as "Flashpoint"'s star rose after the 2020 election, he became a leading Trumpy prophetic voice. 2/
The top "Flashpoint" prophetic panelists (often interspersed with other guests) are Lance Wallnau, Dutch Sheets, Mario Murillo, and Hank Kunneman. Host Gene Bailey seems to be angling to take over Kenneth Copeland's whole shop. 3/
As I laid out in Charismatic Revival Fury (Eps. 3 & 5), "Flashpoint" emerged as a central vehicle for pro-Trump Charismatic propaganda and mobilization after the 2020 election and fed directly into the galvanization of Independent Charismatics in the lead-up to #January6th. 4/
If you dig into Murillo's blog post (which was, importantly, picked up by Charisma News charismamag.com/spiritled-livi…) and the debate in the comment thread, his withdrawal from "Flashpoint" is a rebuke to Hank Kunneman for his continued association with Kat Kerr and Robin Bullock. 5/
Kerr and Bullock are 2 of the most forward-leaning (& truly unhinged) Trump prophets. Both have built brands of going on Charismatic media & spouting off with wild prophecies. Murillo is frustrated that Kunneman (his friend & co-panelist) still associates with Kerr & Bullock. 6/
So he's temporarily withdrawing from "Flashpoint." He makes clear in the comments thread that he's not calling out Lance Wallnau or Dutch Sheets (both key #NAR leaders), and he refrains from directly taking on Kunneman, but he's unsparing in his criticisms of Kerr and Bullock. 7/
A couple points on what this signals: Murillo seems to recognize that the ongoing, dead-ender Trump prophesying is really toxic, and he wants to detach his reputation from that sludge. This places his fellow "Flashpoint" regulars in an awkward position. Will they join him? 8/
On a bigger scale, the Independent Charismatic celebrity world is casting about for their new anointed politician. If Doug Mastriano or Kari Lake had won, they would've been obvious choices, but that didn't happen. So will Trump fulfill the prophecies and get another term? 9/
Can DeSantis convince the Independent Charismatic-celebrity class that he's "God's fighter." people.com/politics/ron-d… Right now, everyone seems to be taking a breath and waiting to see how things play out. 10/
Murillo's willingness to break ranks and make a "principled" stand (everything he complains about has been in evidence for years now), indicates that the unique mind-meld around Trump in 2016 & 2020 might not hold, and the cocksure Trump prophet schtick is getting old. 11/
As a day-later coda to my thread: Charisma News decided to write this up today & interviewed Murillo for the piece: charismamag.com/propheticreviv… Note how they studiously avoid naming Kunneman (the "certain other guest" Murillo's protesting) & make clear that Lance Wallnau is A-OK.
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Xty is demographically declining in the U.S., but it's not going quietly into that good night. A lot of that decline is among liberal/prog churches. 45% of Americans who say "U.S. should be a Xn nation" is a still a demogr. force to be reckoned with. pewresearch.org/religion/2022/… 2/
The long-term coalescence of right-wing Christians around the Republican party means that this demographic, even if it's declining, is ever more important to Republican politicians. One need only look at Trump & DeSantis' jockeying for Evang leaders' support today to verify. 3/
Because #NewApostolicReformation leaders have close ties to Messianic Judaism & Christian Zionism, it’s rare that you’d find explicit pro-Nazi comments from them. More often, if they’re going to reference Nazism, they cast their enemies as Nazis & themselves as victims of Nazism.
Yes, you can find ties bw #NAR leaders and white nationalists, but those are rarely overt. A lot of NAR-originating prophetic memes (like #AppealtoHeaven flags) have a sort of patriotic/godly, universal-adapter quality, so other movements can grab them and plug & play.
One very strange (& explicit) Dutch Sheets “Nazi” reference was “Operation Valkyrie,” and was part of his post-2020 prophecy tour. It’s a prophetic dream/prophetic meme I really wanted to get into in Charismatic Revival Fury, but it was a real rabbit hole.
IMPORTANT UPDATE from the #January6thCommittee materials: the good news for listeners of Charismatic Revival Fury is they did have the #WhiteHouse visitor logs that I ended the series pining for. The bad news is they only released select dates: govinfo.gov/app/details/GP…
They evidently decided to only release the logs from dates relevant to the material referenced in the #January6thReport (Dec 12 - Jericho March, Dec 14 - Electoral College, Dec 18 - nutjob Flynn/Lawyers meeting, Dec 21 - MTG, et al. meeting, & Jan 3-5 - leadup to #January6th).
So the Dutch Sheets prophecy meeting on Dec 29th isn't in there. For those coming in late to this conversation or who haven't listened to our Charismatic Revival Fury audio-documentary series (you should!), this is what I'm talking about: religiondispatches.org/evidence-stron…
Here's an interesting find abt Fivefold/Dominion Theology & the leadup to the #NAR (@FredClarkson@brucewilson@ulyankee1@visionsurreal) I found a flyer for Maranatha World Leadership Conf (12/29/85–1/2/86). Workshops include: 1) C. Peter Wagner, "The Dynamics of Church Growth;"
2) Larry Tomczak (of People of Destiny), "Principles for Building a Thriving Church;" 3) Dennis Peacocke (eventually on ICA apost. council), "Dominion: A Vision for the Church;" 4) Rice Broocks (member of Wagner's New Apostolic Roundtable), "Apostolic Vision for Your Church"
Plus a series of workshops titled "Reformation of Society: Taking Dominion in Every Area of Life" with sessions on THE ARTS, EDUCATION, HISTORY, MEDIA, SCIENCE, MUSIC, LAW (7 total, though diff. list from the eventual 7 Mountains).