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So I am going to a thread on @GeorgeFreemanMP

And @BBCQuestionTime with @lisanandy

Yesterday I did a thread on a horrendous interview @LeeAndersonMP_ in terms of how he behaved

I can't decide whether George's behaviour is better or worse

The thread on Lee available at :

There was also a BBC Question Time question on Russian money

Now I am not going to focus on that clip

Because as George shows - there is always a clip

As I have said previously

I can understand

1) no grounds for investigating
2) grounds for investigating and investigation not finding conclusive evidence
3) grounds for investigating and investigation finding conclusive evidence

npr.org/2020/07/21/893…
But hey go George with his "strong cultural stand for our Values"

Which is weird because George is quite active about focusing on party donations

e.g.

Which is weird because George is quite active about focusing on party donations

e.g.

But back to the clip I am choosing to focus on

So here's the transcript
Here's that mountain in December 2022

Here's that mountain in February 2023

I hate to be the one to tell George

But the mountain seems to be getting bigger
I would ask George

At what point did you recognise that Boris Johnson did not provide "proper standards, proper integrity, proper discipline"

who and what Boris Johnson is has never changed
the only question

of just how far he would go

and who he would lie to

and what about
So in December 2021

George was having a bit of a nightmare

As he was the cabinet minister on the local media round

Here he is later that same morning

So the other question George was asked on 2/12/2021

Was around #Partygate

You can listen to his utterly pathetic responses here

here is the write up of that interview from @JohnJCrace

theguardian.com/politics/2021/…
A reminder of the various bullshit used by the Prime Minister, his cabinet, his MPs and his backers
all the bullshit they waffle designed to deflect from a central question

which I put here (mid thread) where I used two songs from Paul McCartney and Gerry Rafferty to praise the people of Liverpool

Oh here's Boris on the people of Liverpool

liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool…
Here's my fuller thread on the people of #Liverpool

Boris Johnson isn't fit to tie their shoe laces

Now George was quite an enthusiastic backer of Boris Johnson

He even got the badge

I admire the use of the word "colourful" and "living on his wits"

Oh and here's also Eddie Mair of what some of "colourful"

Oh here is George defending Boris Johnson's racism

Here is my thread where I defend Boris Johnson

I think I did better than George tbh because I did not deflect by attacking someone else

Oh and on misogny

Now there are so many places to choose to begin with George

I chose first of all to focus on the initial tory leadership campaign in autumn 2022

Now George ...

George thought that Penny Mordaunt was the PM in waiting

Now here he is defending the lies of Penny Mordaunt

Here's another one where Penny herself is challenged on her lies

In addition to the lies of Penny Mordaunt to Andrew Marr

You can also compare that

To how Penny Mordaunt modified her sales pitch in the Buzzfeed referendum debate
Time position is at : -21:00

scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-29/…
She here twists it to

individual citizens not having a veto

the referendum being the only place as a citizen we have a veto

we have a veto but we can never use it
Here's a reminder post June 2016

Of who was championing Turkey joining the EU

politico.eu/article/boris-…
Oh see also
oh see also

Then ten days later

He chose a different PM in waiting

Based on ....

Oh and on bullying

I strangely can't see a post where he joined in the protective square around Priti Patel

He chose to be silent

Weird that

Here George talks of winning an election to

"deliver a a sensible brexit deal"

"put to bed the brexit divisions"

"a moment of inspiring renewal"

George does seem to invoke a moment of "renewal" quite a lot

twitter.com/search?q=renew…
Here is George wanting Boris to deliver a "one nation brexit deal"

Whatever the actual fuck that is

Here is George on a no deal brexit

As Boris Johnson heads for the "australian option" on January1st

Anyway here is George on Boris' deal

So George did write a letter to Boris Johnson

Imagine writing that letter and not being able to write it in a way to make clear your resignation

Eventually he managed to admit to himself a tipping point

norfolklive.co.uk/news/norfolk-n…
My question

What took you so long George?
So now I want to go back to an earlier resignation by George

where he did actually make clear the resignation part
Mr Freeman clashed with Downing Street on the party's direction & wrote to Ms May saying the Tories risked alienating young voters if it allowed itself to be "defined as narrow party of nostalgia, hard Brexit, public sector austerity & lazy privilege".

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politi…
Here's those younger voters

"Only 2% of people aged 18-24, and 15% of 25-49-year olds say they intend to vote Conservative at the next general election – due to be called before the end of 2024"

politicshome.com/news/article/c…
Anyway

I am coming to the end now

But one final comparison of the difference between what George SAYS and what George does
I had to go back to an old BBC Any Questions episode

From 21st September 2018

Where George defends Chris Grayling (in the closing minutes of the interview) and tries valiantly to defend the state of UK railways

bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b0…
But at the start of that Any Questions debate

There's a more serious point

Here's the transcript of the contribution from George Freeman
So first of all before we start on George

The audience question starts from a false premise

"Both sides made their positions on the Irish border clear on day one of brexit"

This is not true
Prior to 23/6/2016

Vote Leave said they had many solutions to the NI border

George should know this

Because he is intimately aware of who said that lie

@PennyMordaunt

"There is many ways of doing it"
On day one of brexit - there actually was a different promise

But we aren't talking about that
It just gets added to the list of lies
So back to Penny

Vote Leave promised they had many solutions to the NI border

We are now nearly 7 years after that vote

And they have not delivered a single one of those

Instead

What did they do to "get brexit done"

Here's how George voted on the NI Protocol bill

votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/…
So this answer dated well
Here's a fulller thread on the NI border

Now I do not know how as a "Conservative and Unionist Party" representative

Let alone voter

How you lie to yourself that much that you vote against the union

It is the contempt you have for yourself, your party but ultimately the union of the United Kingdom
But then again

I suppose if you can lie to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth to unlawfully prorogue the Mother of Parliaments

There really is nobody yo will not lie to
I wrote a thread on lying too

with reference to @trussliz @joelycett and to Elizabeth and Josephine

So to end with a thread touching on some of George's ministerial areas

The reason George like to talks up "renewal" so much

Is that whilst you fuck the law, fuck the union and fuck business

How you hide behind the hollow words of "renewal" matter

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