I made a Macbeth reference during the pod ("who would have thought the old man to have had so much poo in him?") and this led me on a train of thought... basically Macbeth is chock full of Brexit references:
And this of course: “Things without all remedy
Should be without regard: what's done, is done” - but only in the sense that, until and unless the UK definitively leaves, we still have a remedy.
You could rationally, if unreasonably, exclude residents because they are non-citizens, or citizens because they are non-residents, but you can’t rationally do both… and yet they did. The 2016 referendum was illegitimate. #Gerrymandering#FinalSayForAll#PeoplesVote
How is it fair for an EU citizen like my mother, taxpaying resident in the UK for nearly 60 years, to be deprived of a vote, while NoFactsChloe can trip off a plane from Sydney and vote Leave? The 2016 referendum was illegitimate. #Gerrymandering#PeoplesVote#FinalSayForAll
People whose entire lives hung on the outcome were excluded, while people with zero stake in the matter and zero connection to this country were handed a vote. The franchise was undemocratic, the 2016 referendum was illegitimate. #Gerrymandering#FinalSayForAll#PeoplesVote
But even this overstates it. We’re not the second largest EU economy (not any more), and very far from the richest on a per capita basis. And we’re not the biggest military player (not in the EU’s Common Security & Defence Policy). These delusions will hit reality fast & hard.
Even on hard security - both blue and green - which the UK very much sees as its ace in the hole, a trump card that will bring the EU to its senses eventually - the UK consistently and massively overestimates its status within EU security structures.
The UK is breaking one of the most important rules in successful negotiations: knowing yourself. If you don’t truly understand your own position relative to others, you can’t hope to succeed in a tricky negotiation. ottocr.at/brexit-a-negot…
Nauseating Leaver arrogance and exceptionalism. UK not the oldest, not the most stable, and most definitely not the most successful country in Europe, and is in absolutely no position to be lecturing the EU on anything whatsoever.
And it’s a bit fucking rich of people like Mordaunt and Patel to preach about government serving the people given the diabolical mess their minority government is making of the country and its long-suffering people.
I think what riles me so badly about Leave exceptionalism is how insecure and pathetic it says we are as a nation. True patriotism is about celebrating what makes us us, it’s not about measuring ourselves against others. You don’t have to lose for me to win.
Hands up who thinks Rod Liddle would still have called for me to be sacked from my EU job if I had been using my personal twitter account to attack the EU and back Brexit?
Oh what a surprise. Liddle writing in 2002 in defence of EU whistleblower Marta Andreasen. Seems Liddle’s interest in defending your freedom of speech is entirely contingent upon whether he agrees with what you want to say. #Hypocrite
One way or the other, the Conservative Party is dead. Either it tears itself apart before Brexit Day, or it won’t survive its association with the shock that comes after. This is small comfort, because what replaces it may be even worse.
Ironically, I think its only chance of survival is to engineer its own defeat in an election within the next nine months to let a Corbyn-led Labour deliver Brexit (or not). Tories survive as the “we’d have done it properly” party. People have short memories.
But they are far too scared of Corbyn and far too fond of power to let this happen so they won’t. The same short-termism that gives us Brexit and climate disaster.
@atpfm@caseyliss@marcoarment@siracusa Guys your post-show on your visit to my continent was entertaining and infuriating in equal measure, I can't resist a super short thread of commentary:
AC: this summer has been (is being) unnaturally hot & dry, scarily so. One of the reasons we are where we are is because there are whole continents where buildings are refrigerated to keep them unnaturally cool. Retrofitting AC is not the solution to this problem.
Apple Pay: in the UK we call this 'contactless' & it has been around a lot longer. The £30 limit is there because most people use it via RFID chips in their (easily lost) bank cards. As everyone has contactless cards, we use them rather than phone/watch; it's just easier.
Here's a classic piece of deflection using whataboutery, strawman arguments, and false equivalence to divert attention from the established finding that Vote Leave BROKE ELECTORAL LAW. #VoteLeaveCheated#VoteLeaveBrokeTheLaw 1/
"Waaah Remain did it too!" Then report them. Report them and wait for the Electoral Commission's findings or STFU. 2/
Whitehall went into purdah as it always does ahead of an election. HMG was so scared of appearing to use the civil service that it didn't even allow them to plan for what to do if Leave won! With the results we see now. Sick of Quitters weaponising public servants. 3/
Korea done, Canada done, Japan done, Mercosur, Chile, Mexico well on their way, now getting started on NZ, Australia. The EU is setting the pace for extending free trade well beyond the WTO multilateral high water mark.
Of course, if you read this thread of mine last year then you'll know all about it. You'll also know that these things do not get done overnight, they take years, sometimes decades of preparation before negotiations can even start.
If the UK does indeed Brexit, it doesn't matter whether it's a hard, soft, or no deal Brexit, all those deals will have to be done from scratch. It will take years. What do UK importers and exporters do in the meantime? Leavers cannot answer this question except with platitudes.
She answers her own question: “At the heart of this contradiction is a fixation on status. To Brexit supporters, EU members are bullying equals or uppity inferiors who need to be taught a lesson on British pluck.” Whereas we’ll happily assume the position for our US dom.
It’s a genuine insight. The UK *is* obsessed with status. It’s a sickness. Your accent, your school, your pedigree, everyone’s insecure here. And yet Trump is the ultimate non-U interloper, there’s not a club in St James where he wouldn’t be instantly blackballed.
“If a paper like this was going to be published, they should have done so just before they triggered Article 50. … it is not acceptable now, with just weeks of negotiating time left.” Further can-kicking, leaving either cliff edge or total capitulation. politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/…
Seems the White Paper shows that HMG still hasn’t woken up and sniffed the coffee. Still bathing in faith-fuelled delusion both about themselves and about the EU. Right now, I’m afraid I’m upping my prediction of a no deal armageddobrexit to 75% likely.
I predict that in this scenario the only mitigation would be emergency extension of A50 period or emergency sectoral agreements for nuclear, aviation.
It is utterly ludicrous. We have VIPs through here all the time. We’ve had Putin, Xi Jinping, all the EU obviously, royalty, all sorts, the only time we *ever* have this level of disruption is with Americans & even Obama was nowhere near as bad as this.
It’s the international relations version of a fragile male ego.
And then imagine that the Titanic's officers, seeing that they are sailing towards the iceberg which they will hit in 2 hours, spend 1 hour and 45 minutes debating whether the iceberg is made of rubber or jelly while expert passengers scream at them to take evasive action.
and while the wealthier passengers arrange for their own private lifeboats to take them to safety
Volume carmakers do not build exclusively for small markets. They have regional manufacturing nodes where they can draw on virtually the whole supply chain within a single customs area. The exception is where labour costs are so low that it offsets supply chain trade barriers.
At the moment, UK-based volume carmakers have access to parts suppliers from the whole EU, tariff-free, & reliably just-in-time. After Brexit, they won't, and costs will 📈. Unless this is offset by wages, taxes going 📉, sooner or later they will move operations outside the UK.
Oh freddled gruntbuggly
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
With my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't
This is as meaningless as “Brexit means Brexit”. Yes, obviously. What kind of deal defines what kind of partnership. And no deal means no partnership. Partners still carry out customs checks unless they are in a customs union (and even then sometimes).
Voice le dossier blanc du royaume uni pour son départ de l’union européenne fiche explanatoire au sexours au secours si vous lisez ceci nous sommes pris ôtages par les extremistes dangereux aux yeux roulants venez nous sauver bien à vous le gouvernement britannique
All this does is offer HARD PROOF that the UK is deliberately trying to work around the EU’s negotiators. It is HARD EVIDENCE of (a) bad faith and (b) British incomprehension of the point of having EU institutions. It just encourages the EU27 to hurry us out the door asap. 2/
Why is the UK unable to comprehend that unity is the EU27’s strength? That the EU27 see its clumsy divide & rule tactic and are not stupid & suicidal enough to fall for it? That they trust Barnier more than they trust May to look after their interests? 3/
I think the only rational response to this is to scream until your throat bleeds and darkness engulfs you
I wonder if the problem here is the term “third country”? The EU is made up of 28 sovereign countries. It is not itself a country. So when we talk about non-EU countries, we can’t say “foreign countries”. That’s why the term we use is “third countries”.
Taking offence at the term “third country” is yet another example of foaming EU haters being outraged by something they ought to be happy about - it’s evidence that the EU is not & doesn’t see itself as a superstate or a replacement for the nation state.