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The mistakes made by team #5561BCE falsifying Veda Vyasa’s Shabda Pramanas of 58days maximum for Bhisma Moksha, extending it to 98 days thereby falsifying the other Shabda Pramanas stating Magha masa for Moksha takes some beating in terms of blunders.
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The following are:
Failed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
1. Magha masa for Bhisma moksha x 2 verses.
2. 58 day max for moksha.
3. Expn for 56 day for Krishna’s observation (Achar)
4. Moksha on 4th day post WS
5. Moksha not on WS.
6. Alpa Sesha dinanam verse.
7. Balarama return TL
Failed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
1. Magha masa for Bhisma moksha x 2 verses.
2. 58 day max for moksha.
3. Expn for 56 day for Krishna’s observation (Achar)
4. Moksha on 4th day post WS
5. Moksha not on WS.
6. Alpa Sesha dinanam verse.
7. Balarama return TL
The following are made up in 5561BCE:
1. 98 day timeline to Bhisma moksha as a scribal error.
2. Balarama’s pilgrimage reversal of nakshatras.
Finally:
Passed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
27 days for banks of Ganga.
1. 98 day timeline to Bhisma moksha as a scribal error.
2. Balarama’s pilgrimage reversal of nakshatras.
Finally:
Passed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
27 days for banks of Ganga.
So I was told that “Mahabharata war cannot end on an Amavasya because the light post sunset is not sufficiently enough to fight” by #5561BCE supporters.
Let’s destroy this argument with direct evidence
I touched upon this a few months ago..
Chapter 163 GP (Gita Press) verses:
Let’s destroy this argument with direct evidence
I touched upon this a few months ago..
Chapter 163 GP (Gita Press) verses:
The precise number of “mashaal “ per chariot, precise number on elephants and elsewhere are given.
So... you can see in the above tweet that verse 18 showed this.
What does verse 15 say?
“The entire army lit up due to the lighted fires and looked brilliantly illuminated “
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So... you can see in the above tweet that verse 18 showed this.
What does verse 15 say?
“The entire army lit up due to the lighted fires and looked brilliantly illuminated “
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Now question arises why only after Bhisma falls do all these things about fighting at night occur?
It’s a very simple answer and I am sure that people here will easily answer this question...
I will wait till mid morning and then give this answer too.. Pranaam.
It’s a very simple answer and I am sure that people here will easily answer this question...
I will wait till mid morning and then give this answer too.. Pranaam.
One more Amruta pill for #5561BCE supporters!
(Those claiming K14 for Vyasa Dhritarashtra meet so wanting war to start on Amavasya somehow, anyhow, no matter what text evidence says!
Q Did Ayudha Puja occur prior to Ulooka meeting?
When does Ayudha Puja occur?
K14 or S10?
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(Those claiming K14 for Vyasa Dhritarashtra meet so wanting war to start on Amavasya somehow, anyhow, no matter what text evidence says!
Q Did Ayudha Puja occur prior to Ulooka meeting?
When does Ayudha Puja occur?
K14 or S10?
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For those claiming Amavasya start to the war and claiming “Upamanas” suggesting Full Moon analogies for the last 7 days,
Q 2: Do those verses say that the warriors faces looked like the Moon in the sky?
Or just their faces looked like purna chandra?
Q 2: Do those verses say that the warriors faces looked like the Moon in the sky?
Or just their faces looked like purna chandra?
For those claiming Amavasya start to the war and claiming “Upamanas” suggesting Full Moon analogies for the last 7 days,
Q3:How many Purnimas occur in a year?
Q4: Where do they occur and what’s the gap between them in normal life?
Q3:How many Purnimas occur in a year?
Q4: Where do they occur and what’s the gap between them in normal life?
Mistake after mistake in a single tweet of @NileshOak !
1. Bhisma Moksha can’t occur on Winter Solstice or one day after because the Sun is seen to move upwards only on the fourth day. (Verse 6,26)
2. Phalgun masa Bhisma Nirvana not possible as two verses for Magha masa!
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1. Bhisma Moksha can’t occur on Winter Solstice or one day after because the Sun is seen to move upwards only on the fourth day. (Verse 6,26)
2. Phalgun masa Bhisma Nirvana not possible as two verses for Magha masa!
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Let me expand!
Verse 6 of Bhisma Moksha specifies that Yudhistira has to see Winter Solstice with the eye. So this can only be on the 4th day after Winter Solstice! It’s an accepted scientific fact.
Not 1 day after as suggested by Shri Oak in #5561BCE!
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Verse 6 of Bhisma Moksha specifies that Yudhistira has to see Winter Solstice with the eye. So this can only be on the 4th day after Winter Solstice! It’s an accepted scientific fact.
Not 1 day after as suggested by Shri Oak in #5561BCE!
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And here is one of two verses of Bhisma Moksha saying Magha masa and Shukla paksha and astami tithi.
The other verse is Anushasan Parva verse from Chapter 153.
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The other verse is Anushasan Parva verse from Chapter 153.
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So the 60+ verses of Drona Parva chapter 159 + chapter 161 ignored in 5561BCE, are beautiful.
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A spectacular late night waning phase Moonrise of a Crescent Moon in the East is converted to a full Moon on the 14th war night:
Would someone want me to upload the Gita Press pages?
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A spectacular late night waning phase Moonrise of a Crescent Moon in the East is converted to a full Moon on the 14th war night:
Would someone want me to upload the Gita Press pages?
One can revel in the Full Moons which never existed in life in the 5561BCE theory.
How they came into being can be thought about at leisure here on Twitter.
The actual verses taken to mean “Full Moon” are faces of warriors/helmets.
NOT TRUE sky observations ( Moonrise is ignored)
How they came into being can be thought about at leisure here on Twitter.
The actual verses taken to mean “Full Moon” are faces of warriors/helmets.
NOT TRUE sky observations ( Moonrise is ignored)
There are many verses which tear apart that imagination filled theory of a “Full Moon “ on warday 14 which is propounded by the 5561BCE theory:
A small sample of them can be seen in my short film from earlier this year:
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A small sample of them can be seen in my short film from earlier this year:
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Biggest set of Amruta pills for all #5561BCE supporters: my small set of workshop questions:
Q1: Should we ignore verse 16 of chapter 2 of Bhisma Parva?
Option 1: Better ignore if we wish to make MBH more ancient?
Option 2: Never ignore Vyasa.
Q1: Should we ignore verse 16 of chapter 2 of Bhisma Parva?
Option 1: Better ignore if we wish to make MBH more ancient?
Option 2: Never ignore Vyasa.
Amruta pills for #5561BCE supporters:
Q2:What does the Ch2 verse 16 mean for AV obs?
Option A: It means nothing. If we close our eyes and pretend it’s not there, it will go away.
Option B: It means that the AV observation has transient context.
Q2:What does the Ch2 verse 16 mean for AV obs?
Option A: It means nothing. If we close our eyes and pretend it’s not there, it will go away.
Option B: It means that the AV observation has transient context.
Amruta pills for #5561BCE supporters:
Q3: Should we ignore the context of the verses of the verses coming before the AV observation?
Option 1: Of course. Who cares about context.
Option 2: Better take context as it gives a better picture.
Q3: Should we ignore the context of the verses of the verses coming before the AV observation?
Option 1: Of course. Who cares about context.
Option 2: Better take context as it gives a better picture.
Another day, another story of how the Mahabharata theory failed in #5561BCE vs the theory which passed perfectly all corroborations in #3067BCE :
Some ask: Are findings assumptions or not?
For example here is are names of two Nakshatras given, start n end of pilgrimage (hence end nakshatra of war is given as we know from the text that Balarama’s return is on war day 18: NO assumption!
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For example here is are names of two Nakshatras given, start n end of pilgrimage (hence end nakshatra of war is given as we know from the text that Balarama’s return is on war day 18: NO assumption!
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So the only interpretation to be made is simple maths about Nakshatra of the 1st day of war. This is easily done to plus or minus one star: Thus Rohini or Mrigashira must be the 1st war day.
So 4 points to be corroborated: pass or failed by any theory:
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So 4 points to be corroborated: pass or failed by any theory:
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Shri @nileshoak is now worried because the second part of the debate will show big holes in his #5561BCE theory.
So let me point out using basic logic what all went wrong in his theory:
10 points of loss you can understand.
Short thread.
So let me point out using basic logic what all went wrong in his theory:
10 points of loss you can understand.
Short thread.
1. First point: Confuses Moon phase nearing Amavasya for a full Moon on the 14th night of the war.
How can an astronomer confuse something so basic
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How can an astronomer confuse something so basic
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cc: @nileshoak
2. Second point: Unable to corroborate his own Moonphase analogies. Puts 3 of the 12 full Moons which occur every year in the last seven days of the war.
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2. Second point: Unable to corroborate his own Moonphase analogies. Puts 3 of the 12 full Moons which occur every year in the last seven days of the war.
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