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Just as we learn from failures, it's important to learn from wins.
So, I learned from my failure to get more people sanctioned this last year that some of what I do is working (backchanneling, essentially) and some isn't.
I've also learned from what people talk about as "wins".
So, I learned from my failure to get more people sanctioned this last year that some of what I do is working (backchanneling, essentially) and some isn't.
I've also learned from what people talk about as "wins".
So, you could regard the interactions we had with #parmesanGirl as a "win": she singled me out for attack, started blocking not only #NAFO folks but everyone on my follower list, then got called out for it and then turned into a trending hashtag.
There the lesson has a lot to do with disrupting the basic lies inherent in how Susli operates as a disinformation outlet and presents herself.
I'd argue it really lays bare the structural aspects of disinformation - not just what it says, *how* it says.
I'd argue it really lays bare the structural aspects of disinformation - not just what it says, *how* it says.
Structural differences between disinfo/not-disinfo fascinate me.
It's like, irrespective of the underlying truth, industrialized lie systems have common traits.
So, compare how Cray Zone covers "NAFO = Nazis!" to what @kristenhare says here about covering hate groups -
It's like, irrespective of the underlying truth, industrialized lie systems have common traits.
So, compare how Cray Zone covers "NAFO = Nazis!" to what @kristenhare says here about covering hate groups -
I'd add just one more rule here:
When you cover hate groups *don't make them look cool*.
Example: Riley June Williams, the genius who planned to sell Pelosi's laptop to Russia.
businessinsider.com/capitol-rioter…
Running her own Nazi vanity pics was a bad idea.
When you cover hate groups *don't make them look cool*.
Example: Riley June Williams, the genius who planned to sell Pelosi's laptop to Russia.
businessinsider.com/capitol-rioter…
Running her own Nazi vanity pics was a bad idea.
Compare this to how Cray Zone covers #NAFO.
Even if I conceded, for the sake of argument, that NAFO really was, like, some... what is it now, gay CIA/Jewish-people plot to make Russia look bad...
This would still be an irresponsible way of covering it.
Even if I conceded, for the sake of argument, that NAFO really was, like, some... what is it now, gay CIA/Jewish-people plot to make Russia look bad...
This would still be an irresponsible way of covering it.
I don't know a ton about CQB, or room clearing; for me, it's basically skills in armed home invasion, which is singularly un-useful to a civilian.
Still.
My best friend, an 11B during the surge (one of Hertling's folks actually) said something to me once relevant to NAFO:
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Still.
My best friend, an 11B during the surge (one of Hertling's folks actually) said something to me once relevant to NAFO:
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It was back in '13 or '14, when I ran a startup and my first investors were my veteran friend who served in Iraq, and my other veteran friend who served in Afghanistan (an 86W medic with the 173rd, coincidentally, also Mark Hertling's folks).
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They're talking about stack order and who goes where in a center-fed room or something, which just means a room where the door is in the middle of a wall.
Infantrymen are (for good reason) like macho, overly-fit nerds about kinds of rooms they clear, I've noticed.
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Infantrymen are (for good reason) like macho, overly-fit nerds about kinds of rooms they clear, I've noticed.
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Here, I'll show you something fun about disinformation.
Organized disinfo - like we encounter in Russia's war on Ukraine - displays two formal features that define what it is: synchrony, and diversity.
Usually, that means they post the same memes.
Sometimes, they screw up.
Organized disinfo - like we encounter in Russia's war on Ukraine - displays two formal features that define what it is: synchrony, and diversity.
Usually, that means they post the same memes.
Sometimes, they screw up.
This is a Derek Utley-affiliated spam ring from 2019; I think they must have had someone new running things.
So instead of copy-and-pasting the same content, they shared it.
This gives you a glimpse of related accounts and pages - here, an apolitical page called "Memes".
So instead of copy-and-pasting the same content, they shared it.
This gives you a glimpse of related accounts and pages - here, an apolitical page called "Memes".
...and another page, called, imaginatively enough, "Memes 2".
This is, I want to stress, unusual, because instead of copy-and-pasting the image - so that they all (diversity) end up mysteriously saying the same thing at the same time (synchrony) - they just straight shared it.
This is, I want to stress, unusual, because instead of copy-and-pasting the image - so that they all (diversity) end up mysteriously saying the same thing at the same time (synchrony) - they just straight shared it.
Let me show you an activist trick from the resistance years.
Interview ~150 people about a political candidate and ask them to use two, three words at the most to describe them.
Personality psychologists found that most words about people boil down to 5 dimensions -
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Interview ~150 people about a political candidate and ask them to use two, three words at the most to describe them.
Personality psychologists found that most words about people boil down to 5 dimensions -
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- so in principle, every word you're hearing should cluster together with similar words.
Take those clusters together, and simplify them even further, until you have three to five (seven at most) words you use to describe someone.
The result is a consensus message.
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Take those clusters together, and simplify them even further, until you have three to five (seven at most) words you use to describe someone.
The result is a consensus message.
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When you take those boiled-down terms and then put them back into memes, the folks who responded to the poll are already "invested" and will spread your memes, because you listened to them and cared what they said.
This is the relationship you want.
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This is the relationship you want.
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You might have a feeling, looking at a complex issue flattened to a sound bite, that there's some basic lie being told.
But it seems like a subjective distinction; it seems "squishy", like it's going to change depending on who's looking.
That feeling is valid, and not squishy.
But it seems like a subjective distinction; it seems "squishy", like it's going to change depending on who's looking.
That feeling is valid, and not squishy.
Start with some basic combinations.
If we have two "toy" alphabets, we can observe some basic rules with them.
If we have two "toy" alphabets, we can observe some basic rules with them.
The difference in information entropy, or, to oversimplify (again), complexity, is very simple in these terms:
It's the difference in informational value for a letter from a 3-letter alphabet, versus a letter from a 9-letter alphabet.
It's quantifiable.
It's the difference in informational value for a letter from a 3-letter alphabet, versus a letter from a 9-letter alphabet.
It's quantifiable.
holy cow
uhhhh... #NAFO?
We're making "brie" appear in "trending"
We are #parmesanGirl'ing Briahna Joy Gray
Accidentally 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
twitter.com/search?q=Brie&…
uhhhh... #NAFO?
We're making "brie" appear in "trending"
We are #parmesanGirl'ing Briahna Joy Gray
Accidentally 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
twitter.com/search?q=Brie&…
"NAFO? Yeah aren't those the trolls on Twitter that make up cheese names for people?"
It's because of @brielarson
So many of us are referring to @briebriejoy's denial of war crimes by referring to her as "brie" that it's causing it to TREND 🤣😂😂😂
DAMMIT PEOPLE STOP SAYING "BRIE"
DAMMIT NOW I SAID IT
So many of us are referring to @briebriejoy's denial of war crimes by referring to her as "brie" that it's causing it to TREND 🤣😂😂😂
DAMMIT PEOPLE STOP SAYING "BRIE"
DAMMIT NOW I SAID IT
I think a common mistake people make in online confrontations is the idea that it’s a single event. You win, it’s over.
It’s not. Consider #ParmesanGirl:
Our ridicule will follow her and limit her career. She’ll always be a D-list loser.
That’s a relationship, not an event.
It’s not. Consider #ParmesanGirl:
Our ridicule will follow her and limit her career. She’ll always be a D-list loser.
That’s a relationship, not an event.
Parm is never going to be on Fox News; I doubt OAN would take her. I'm sure she'll make some dinky podcasts, which will mostly discredit them.
Nothing on the left is going to have her on; everyone from MSNBC to Democracy Now! knows what she is.
NAFO is a ceiling on her career.
Nothing on the left is going to have her on; everyone from MSNBC to Democracy Now! knows what she is.
NAFO is a ceiling on her career.
Going one by one and dominating & bullying known liars like Maram Susli is not scalable practice, there's too many goddamn liars.
Instead, I think it's going to be much more developing these adverse relationships, and starting to tell stories more about NAFO than its targets.
Instead, I think it's going to be much more developing these adverse relationships, and starting to tell stories more about NAFO than its targets.
There's no official NAFO meme "brand".
So, racist, misogynist or plain bad content can be planted or used to discredit the movement; both are probably already true.
I'd like to think being exemplary is enough, but let's be clear:
If you're going there, you ain't NAFO to me.
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So, racist, misogynist or plain bad content can be planted or used to discredit the movement; both are probably already true.
I'd like to think being exemplary is enough, but let's be clear:
If you're going there, you ain't NAFO to me.
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It'd be hubris in the extreme to speak for the movement or tell people how to make art.
Let me say, then, to me, at least, from experience, there's a few really easy way to tell what the lines are.
One, are you punching up or down - going with or against social hierarchy?
Let me say, then, to me, at least, from experience, there's a few really easy way to tell what the lines are.
One, are you punching up or down - going with or against social hierarchy?
Examples help illustrate. We just did this with #parmesanGirl & #crayZone.
There is a male-female social hierarchy in a lot of societies, mine (America) included; we're working on it, but it's there.
Going at Alex Rubinstein pretty hard is pretty OK. With Susli, you need lines.
There is a male-female social hierarchy in a lot of societies, mine (America) included; we're working on it, but it's there.
Going at Alex Rubinstein pretty hard is pretty OK. With Susli, you need lines.
Dying from sarin is incredibly painful.
Technically, sarin interferes with ACh breakdown in synapses; it makes parts of the autonomic nervous system that control your breathing stop working.
I've read it described as drowning on air.
That's what #ParmesanGirl was lying about.
Technically, sarin interferes with ACh breakdown in synapses; it makes parts of the autonomic nervous system that control your breathing stop working.
I've read it described as drowning on air.
That's what #ParmesanGirl was lying about.
#ParmesanGirl, aka Maram Susli, uses ethno-nationalist rhetoric to support Syria using chemical weapons to defend its borders, supports Hezbollah, and recycles conspiracy theories about Jewish people.
The word for that is "Nazi".
The word for that is "Nazi".
Ahmed Kousay al-Taie's was an Iraqi-American who enlisted during the war in Iraq.
His mother says that she wants to emphasize her son was of mixed Sunni and Shia heritage.
He was executed by a Shiite militant group in Iraq.
This is #parmesanGirl calling for his death.
His mother says that she wants to emphasize her son was of mixed Sunni and Shia heritage.
He was executed by a Shiite militant group in Iraq.
This is #parmesanGirl calling for his death.
The reason why trashpreneur #parmesanGirl is going through my followers list, and blocking anyone who follows me, is because of a fundamental lie of disinformation that she has to keep up: the lie of popular support.
Understanding it requires starting with the basics of disinfo.
Understanding it requires starting with the basics of disinfo.
Given unrecoverable intent, disinfo studies have a kind of lack of basis.
You can get past this pretty easy with data - and I'm a huge fan of data tools, you see me use them all the time.
But there's more to this than, like, counting tweets and scrolling timelines.
You can get past this pretty easy with data - and I'm a huge fan of data tools, you see me use them all the time.
But there's more to this than, like, counting tweets and scrolling timelines.
There are also basic felicity conditions that underlie speech.
Insofar as disinformation is an *intentional* act, it will tend to break one of these maxims, or some other unenumerated felicity condition.
Insofar as disinformation is an *intentional* act, it will tend to break one of these maxims, or some other unenumerated felicity condition.
