@claddingscanda1 Why?
Legacy concerns over security or arson risks
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convenient FOI blocking strategy for an embattled @GOVUK
All of which is ridiculous when national enforcement registers are a) required by law to be in the public domain
b) list full details
cfoa.org.uk/11823
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK Given the sensitivity of this subject matter here are some useful links signposted to allow more informed positions.
Here’s an informative article from @kentfirerescue on enforcement policy & key enforcement considerations.
kent.fire-uk.org/your-safety/bu…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue All statutory enforcement agencies are bounded by legislation & a clear regulators code.
Primary legislation- Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006
Secondary The Legislative and Regulatory Reform (Regulatory Functions) Order 2007 (as amended)
gov.uk/government/pub…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue Planning enforcement is interesting as trees, newts and bats appear to have more protection than families impacted by a #buildingsafetycrisis
gov.uk/guidance/ensur…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue An authority responsible for enforcing the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, is required by law (the Environment and Safety Information Act 1988) to maintain a public register which gives some information about these notices.
derbys-fire.gov.uk/safety/busines…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue National Enforcement Register hosted on the National Fire Chiefs Council website on behalf of all fire authorities. This provides a single point of contact to view notices served, either on an authority by authority basis, or nationally (England & Wales)
cfoa.org.uk/11823
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue Stitching this thread together with pervious posts when this erupted
@claddingscanda1 isn’t the first project to map U.K. Towerblocks - there’s a number of campaign or academic studies.
Here’s one of the longer standing ones post #RonanPointDisaster
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue As international comparison the Australian - Victoria Cladding Audit which commenced in 2015 #LacrosseFire (2014)
Post #Grenfell Approach under leadership of @TedBaillieu is far more independent, transparent & robust vs @mhclg sector lead #EWS1 or LA Deltasx2
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg Then theres this early one by the Local Government Chronicle
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg With a quick scroll of Google and you can find any number of block mapping projects & data
uptheossroad.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/map…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg Again an early interactive map focusing on Manchester
manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-m…
is it any wonder why @AndyBurnhamGM championed a proactive post #Genfell response & mentioned in dispatches by @team_greenhalgh
https://t.co/YdHshARjk9
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh Another international comparison from #Budapest, mapping election results.
A good idea considering important #FireSafetyBill is stuck in ping pong when #grenfell2 is around the corner + #bankruptcy + #Homelessness + #mentalheathCrisis
medium.com/@nimh/between-…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh There’s any number of case studies which presents important detail on our built environment.
Who has any right to dictate which ones makes the public domain or not?
green-alliance.org.uk/resources/Gree…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh The list goes on and on
bl.uk/britishlibrary…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh I like this one & title says it all
Are @claddingscanda1 corporate evil or also a residents group trying to empower other residents?
Who’s objecting to their work needs closer scrutiny: envy, jealously, competition, or other more sinister motives?
mysociety.org/2019/09/04/emp…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh Here we go a evil corporate entity collecting data on blocks for sinister purposes, compromising security & exposing to arson??
No - in reality, respected surveying practice commissioned by NI Housing Executive @nihecommunity no less.
nihe.gov.uk/Documents/Asse…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Or this incredibly comprehensive study “Failed Cladding On Manchester Tower Blocks”
even telling everyone how to replicate & backed by Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors.
researchgate.net/profile/Robin-…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Another local authority tall building study - Lambeth Council
pity they used 25m height differentiation vs 11m, 18m, 30m, 50m ergo the important fire standard thresholds.
lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Back to concerns over corporates - sorry folks there’s a ton of those.
Also a equal number of web mapping & data sharing for Citizen Housing.
Make up you own mind on who’s the good, the bad or the ugly!
cadcorp.com/support/resour…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity UKFRS have been required to collect building data & conduct operational & enforcement inspections since 1947 under Fire Acts.
derbys-fire.gov.uk/about-us/freed…
Why don’t @GOVUK, @ukhomeoffice @mhclg have a robust maps?
Could crowd source have helped them do this quicker or better?
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Or whole site dedicated to maps - wonderful maps.
Don’t see any hysteria over clandestine security or arson risk or more sinister undertakings!
mappinglondon.co.uk
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice I like questions - it lets me take on mini projects to papers to policy
Just stumbled across this one
Classic gov road map but then in the U.K. experts & regions, agree, disagree & all do something else - re height thresholds.
Now where streeview for those 143 blocks
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Keep mentioning Google maps & street view.
Well here’s the shard - London’s Iconic Block
I’d hazard a more high value target - but one with extensive security & counter hostile reconnaissance measures
U.K. very experienced in counter terrorism.
Shard
goo.gl/maps/ch9ib8P9B…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Here’s another - yep you guessed it has blocks and maps.
oxford.gov.uk/download/downl…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Plus any number of 3D map modelling companies
Concerns over mapping - piff its already been done over and over and over again
+ the world hasn’t ended & the security or arson risk is the same bar unquantifiable fluctuations.
zmapping.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQj…
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Arson risk - what’s next let’s shut down museum of london for mapping the great fire of london
It might be an arson risk?
@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice @TowerBlocksUK resumes activities after hiatus
They have sourced @mhclg list of towerblocks from LAs delta returns + consolidating their own database + view to log FRAs structural certs & digital data
Cc @claddingscanda1 @BldgSafetyReg @EOCS_Official
towerblocksuk.com/single-post/to…
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