Thread by @SteveMcfirerisk

@claddingscanda1 Why?

Legacy concerns over security or arson risks
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convenient FOI blocking strategy for an embattled @GOVUK

All of which is ridiculous when national enforcement registers are a) required by law to be in the public domain
b) list full details

cfoa.org.uk/11823

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK Given the sensitivity of this subject matter here are some useful links signposted to allow more informed positions.

Here’s an informative article from @kentfirerescue on enforcement policy & key enforcement considerations.

kent.fire-uk.org/your-safety/bu…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue All statutory enforcement agencies are bounded by legislation & a clear regulators code.

Primary legislation- Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006

Secondary The Legislative and Regulatory Reform (Regulatory Functions) Order 2007 (as amended)

gov.uk/government/pub…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue Planning enforcement is interesting as trees, newts and bats appear to have more protection than families impacted by a #buildingsafetycrisis

gov.uk/guidance/ensur…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue An authority responsible for enforcing the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, is required by law (the Environment and Safety Information Act 1988) to maintain a public register which gives some information about these notices.

derbys-fire.gov.uk/safety/busines…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue National Enforcement Register hosted on the National Fire Chiefs Council website on behalf of all fire authorities. This provides a single point of contact to view notices served, either on an authority by authority basis, or nationally (England & Wales)

cfoa.org.uk/11823

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue Stitching this thread together with pervious posts when this erupted

@claddingscanda1 isn’t the first project to map U.K. Towerblocks - there’s a number of campaign or academic studies.

Here’s one of the longer standing ones post #RonanPointDisaster

https://twitter.com/SteveMcfirerisk/status/1380869329269444615

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue As international comparison the Australian - Victoria Cladding Audit which commenced in 2015 #LacrosseFire (2014)

Post #Grenfell Approach under leadership of @TedBaillieu is far more independent, transparent & robust vs @mhclg sector lead #EWS1 or LA Deltasx2

https://twitter.com/SteveMcfirerisk/status/1382279294068621317

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg Then theres this early one by the Local Government Chronicle

https://twitter.com/SteveMcfirerisk/status/1382281310392188931

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg With a quick scroll of Google and you can find any number of block mapping projects & data

uptheossroad.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/map…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg Again an early interactive map focusing on Manchester

manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-m…

is it any wonder why @AndyBurnhamGM championed a proactive post #Genfell response & mentioned in dispatches by @team_greenhalgh

https://t.co/YdHshARjk9

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh Another international comparison from #Budapest, mapping election results.

A good idea considering important #FireSafetyBill is stuck in ping pong when #grenfell2 is around the corner + #bankruptcy + #Homelessness + #mentalheathCrisis

medium.com/@nimh/between-…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh There’s any number of case studies which presents important detail on our built environment.

Who has any right to dictate which ones makes the public domain or not?

green-alliance.org.uk/resources/Gree…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh The list goes on and on

bl.uk/britishlibrary…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh I like this one & title says it all

Are @claddingscanda1 corporate evil or also a residents group trying to empower other residents?

Who’s objecting to their work needs closer scrutiny: envy, jealously, competition, or other more sinister motives?

mysociety.org/2019/09/04/emp…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh Here we go a evil corporate entity collecting data on blocks for sinister purposes, compromising security & exposing to arson??

No - in reality, respected surveying practice commissioned by NI Housing Executive @nihecommunity no less.

nihe.gov.uk/Documents/Asse…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Or this incredibly comprehensive study “Failed Cladding On Manchester Tower Blocks”

even telling everyone how to replicate & backed by Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors.

researchgate.net/profile/Robin-…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Another local authority tall building study - Lambeth Council

pity they used 25m height differentiation vs 11m, 18m, 30m, 50m ergo the important fire standard thresholds.

lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity Back to concerns over corporates - sorry folks there’s a ton of those.

Also a equal number of web mapping & data sharing for Citizen Housing.

Make up you own mind on who’s the good, the bad or the ugly!

cadcorp.com/support/resour…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity UKFRS have been required to collect building data & conduct operational & enforcement inspections since 1947 under Fire Acts.

derbys-fire.gov.uk/about-us/freed…

Why don’t @GOVUK, @ukhomeoffice @mhclg have a robust maps?

Could crowd source have helped them do this quicker or better?

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Or whole site dedicated to maps - wonderful maps.

Don’t see any hysteria over clandestine security or arson risk or more sinister undertakings!

mappinglondon.co.uk

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice I like questions - it lets me take on mini projects to papers to policy

Just stumbled across this one

Classic gov road map but then in the U.K. experts & regions, agree, disagree & all do something else - re height thresholds.

Now where streeview for those 143 blocks

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Keep mentioning Google maps & street view.

Well here’s the shard - London’s Iconic Block

I’d hazard a more high value target - but one with extensive security & counter hostile reconnaissance measures

U.K. very experienced in counter terrorism.

Shard
goo.gl/maps/ch9ib8P9B…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Here’s another - yep you guessed it has blocks and maps.

oxford.gov.uk/download/downl…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Plus any number of 3D map modelling companies

Concerns over mapping - piff its already been done over and over and over again

+ the world hasn’t ended & the security or arson risk is the same bar unquantifiable fluctuations.

zmapping.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQj…

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice Arson risk - what’s next let’s shut down museum of london for mapping the great fire of london

It might be an arson risk?

@claddingscanda1 @GOVUK @kentfirerescue @TedBaillieu @mhclg @AndyBurnhamGM @team_greenhalgh @nihecommunity @ukhomeoffice @TowerBlocksUK resumes activities after hiatus

They have sourced @mhclg list of towerblocks from LAs delta returns + consolidating their own database + view to log FRAs structural certs & digital data

Cc @claddingscanda1 @BldgSafetyReg @EOCS_Official

towerblocksuk.com/single-post/to…