1) HEY, I found another Clermont! Lets break down his argument tactics over a generic topic, like say #NetNeutrality
2) First off, note the fear. "The internet providers were overwhelmingly for the repeal of net neutrality" evoking a boogeyman, internet providers. The second tactic is trying to create a false consensus. Really? 83-87% of the American people?
3) A false consensus is another extremely dishonest tactic of the left to make people THINK that if you are against a liberal in a debate, that you stand against some overwhelming majority. Ignoring the fact that if this were true, that a repeal of net neutrality wouldn't happen
4) Part of how they do this is cherry picking polls, and ignoring others. The 83% poll he quotes stands in direct contrast to one that only shows 52% support and dropping rapidly. cnbc.com/2017/11/28/net…
5) Notice that I'm providing sources where he isn't. Here, I'll even give the 83% poll source. thehill.com/policy/technol…
6) The next tactic he engaged in is to cherry pick and only respond to kneejerk initial arguments rather than the entirety of the argument, as so
7) And so
8) And so
9) The next tactic? He pretends that you aren't making an argument, that you aren't presenting any counterpoints.
10) "I'm trying to debate you in an organized respectful way but you refused to" No you're not. We WERE debating, you were ignoring the majority of my arguments, and then you strawmanned my argument
11) Like so. If you have to strawman my argument, you can't debate my actual argument.

12) See, I went after his argument after I asked him to present it, and pointed out the fact that he was supporting net neutrality in fear of a boogeyman doomsday scenario for which there was no evidence it was occurring.
13) Which he admitted to in response.
14) So, let's recap here: He's trying to use Fear and a False Consensus to bludgeon people into agreement. I'm not afraid and I can point to polls that run counter to his false consensus. He admits my point that none of the doomsday scenarios he wants to prevent are a guarantee
15) Yet when I stated that the opposite of said doomsday scenarios were occurring, an argument he ignored then pretended like I never made it, he claims that I'm not debating honestly and in an organized fashion. I made the point here
16) And now he's trying to drag me into a one on one debate, and keeps demanding I DM him!
17) I'm not falling into that little trap. No, this is a public debate, specifically because I want mister rose for a name to be exposed as the bullying dishonest propagandist that he is. And now, he's blocked.
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