1/9 It looks like my "soap" tweet has been quoted all over the place. Wonderful! I do though take a slight issue with the tone in some of these when it comes to soap vs hand sanitiser. Just because I said, soap is better, doesn't mean sanitiser are not good-they are very good! Image
2/9 Let's recap: Soap dissolves the virus by breaking up the interactions that hold it together. The alcohol in sanitisers and wipes does pretty much the same: "Hence alcohol does also dissolve the lipid membrane and disrupts other supramolecular interactions in the virus"
3/9 There is a subtle point here that I didn't explain. Alcohol is a solvent. It is different from water or say petrol. Now, non-covalent interactions are very solvent dependent. The "hydrophobic" interactions that hold the virus together are strongest in water (water = hydro).
4/9 So, at say 60% ethanol concentration the hydrophobic effect is greatly weakened. In fact so much that this is probably the main reason the virus "dissolves" in alcohol solutions. Hence, alcohol solutions are very effective at making the virus inactive. Image
5/9 Therefore, if you can reach every crook and nanny on your skin with the alcohol based sanitizer, then it will get rid of all the viruses just like soapy-water does. I been reading papers from infection experts how experimentally have compared soap vs alcohol based products.
6/9 There is not much difference - slightly larger number of papers are in favour of soap over alcohol based products (c.a. 60/40). When you read the papers more carefully, it seems that this mostly about the TECHNIQUE not the product! That is, how you rub & wipe your hands.
7/9 This does make sense from a chemistry standpoint. Both work well. Compare the recommended techniques. The one for hand soap is not that far off the "natural" way I think many of us use soap. Also, because you don't need "much" soap, +20 sec of wash will cover your hands well. Image
8/9 Look at the recommended hand sanitizer method - do you do this? Why is this necessary? Because it is the best way to get the alcohol everywhere on your hands. Remember, you need the virus to "feel" that 60% alcohol, even it is very briefly. This is slightly harder to do. Image
9/9 Both work very well! Use the one you prefer or better, both; sometimes soap, sometimes sanitizer. The latter is a lot more convenient. But it does not always kill 100%. Even if it sometimes "only" kills 95% you still done great. Rub long and well. That's the key with both!

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1/18 A soap is a soap is a soap! I am still flabbergasted by your response to my Twitter thread about the #COVID19 Coronavirus, soap and supramolecular chemistry! I have been quite busy today but I in this thread I will try to provide answers to some of your questions:
2/18 A lot of the questions are basically about which soap is best? Some people ask if detergents are better/worse than soap? Let me start with the latter one. Basically, what people call a detergent and what is a soap seems to differ! To me as a chemists they are very similar.
3/18 The Wikipedia entry on detergents seems to delineate detergents from soap mainly by calling alkylbenzenesulfonates & similar chemicals detergents, whereas fatty acid salts are soaps. You find detergents mainly in things like laundry detergents. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent
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1/25 Part 1 - Why does soap work so well on the SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? Because it is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. A two part thread about soap, viruses and supramolecular chemistry #COVID19
2/25 The soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and "dies", or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive. Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days.
3/25 Disinfectants, or liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol (and soap) have a similar effects but are not really quite as good as normal soap. Apart from the alcohol and soap, the “antibacterial agents” in these products don't affect the virus structure much at all.
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#covid19 infected per capita yesterday. In just a few days my country of birth Iceland went from 0 cases to 14, putting it on par with Italy. Most of these cases came indeed from one group on a ski-ing trip in Italy. Goes to show how quickly things can change with this outbreak. Image
N.b. The heading is in Icelandic and translated is roughly "Covid-19 infected people per million inhabitants"
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