1/5 Thread: S-curve conundrums

Most money is made as long as companies are in the convex part of the S-curve. Most value traps, on the other hand, usually reside in the concave part of the curve.

Being right on the duration of the growth remains a very difficult task.
2/5 An initial hyper-growth trajectory may only mean companies will reach the concave part of the curve sooner. Unless, of course, you have a huge TAM.

Without a big TAM, a hyper-growth stock with relatively short duration of convexity can be a painful trap!
3/5 The most fantastic value investments can be the ones which have slow, steady but an extremely long duration of growth e.g. $PG.

Of course, I'm talking about the past here, no opinion on $PG's ability to sustain this going forward.
4/5 The only way mega cap companies can extend the convexity of their S-curve is by adding another S-curve.

$FB added another S-curve with Instagram. $AMZN did it with AWS. $GOOG's "Other bets" are primarily focused on finding a new S-curve.
5/5 Whether these companies can add a *new* S-curve is impossible to ascertain.

While the duration of the growth is one of the most important value drivers for any stock, most of our financial models are just complete guesswork when it comes to estimating the implied duration.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Mostly Borrowed Ideas

Mostly Borrowed Ideas Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @borrowed_ideas

20 Dec
1/ Thread: The Platform Economy

I read a thoughtful research note on platforms by @ckaiwu today. I will share my notes in this thread.

Number of platform companies has increased from 40 in 2008 to 100 in 2020 in $SPY. ImageImage
2/ Not just public markets, there are ~500 private unicorn platforms many of which are likely to go public soon. Image
3/ Wait, I know it's a cliché, but how do you define a "platform"?

The image provides a brief context how Sparkline used Natural Language Processing (NLP) to define and score platforms.

Platform score isn't fixed for a company e.g. see how $AMZN score changed over the years. ImageImage
Read 10 tweets
17 Dec
1/5 Thread $ETSY valuation

I've received a couple of DMs on how I'm thinking about $ETSY valuation after the recent strong rally.

Since my guess is as good as yours, I'm sharing my model publicly. You can play with the assumptions as you see fit and come to your own conclusion
2/5 I would like to mention some caveats before sharing my model.

This model was shared with the subscribers of "MBI Deep Dives" when I wrote the deep dive on $ETSY.

To keep it consistent with the writeup, I'm uploading the same model but some things have changed since then.
3/5 For example, my GMS estimates* was $8.6B in 2020, but as per the Q4 GMS mid-point management guidance, it's likely to be $9.6B

So you'll have to make these adjustments in the model based on recent numbers/guidance

*I try to build reverse DCF, so not necessarily my views
Read 5 tweets
16 Dec
1/8 I was listening to Sam Hinkie episode today at @InvestLikeBest, and paused here for a while.

Writing is not only one of the best leverage tools in the age of internet, it is also a great way to talk to yourself across time without the biases of selective memories.
2/8 One of the things that excites me most about building "MBI Deep Dives" is the trail of deep dives I will hopefully be writing in the next 5-10 years.

Will I be able to spot some of the big winners? Can I identify the long-term losers?
3/8 I will most certainly miss some of the big winners. I would love to figure out if there is a particular pattern among the companies I miss.

Will there be anything that I can do to reduce my errors of omission?
Read 8 tweets
15 Dec
1/9 Thread: Long-term return expectation

I ran a poll yesterday here asking the following question:

"What level of IRR would you be happy/satisfied with 10 years from now for your portfolio?"

~3k people responded, and ~54% of them said >10%.
2/9 I thought it was surprising that people are still expecting >10% IRR when ~$20 trillion bonds are trading at negative yield.

I understand people might have interpreted the question differently. Some might be "okay" with 7-8%, but would require >10% to be "happy".
3/9 At one hand, permabulls might be just extrapolating the recent equity returns. The narrative of roaring 20s has perhaps been permanently imprinted in their minds.
Read 9 tweets
13 Dec
1/7 Notes from @dhmeyer episode at @InvestLikeBest

Danny Meyer is the founder and CEO of Union Square Hospitality Group as well as the founder and Chairman of $SHAK.

Here are my notes.
2/7 How do you make a restaurant a favorite one?

"We had to make you feel like we were on your side, which is hospitality, but then to take it a step further, we had to really make you feel like you belonged."
3/7 ABCD =Always Be Collecting Dots.

The desire to belong really resonates.

I found out fintwit last year. I used to lurk around here a lot, and thought this is SO cool. I wished I could be part of fintwit community. And I just started writing, and never stopped.
Read 7 tweets
7 Dec
1/ Notes from @danielgross episode at @InvestLikeBest

This one is packed with meaty insights. I wish it were a longer episode. At the very least, I hope @patrick_oshag invites Dan again.

Here are my notes.
2/ Asking people about their opinions on certain movies can reveal a lot about them. It's a fun, relaxing way to get to the answer you want to know, but much more difficult to ask in a direct manner.
3/ This is a simple point, but I have been surprised before how few people get it.

In creative pursuits, the delta between median and the peak is astonishingly large. It also means if you are slightly better than others in these pursuits, the convexity leads you to win big.
Read 16 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!