Folks, moving on from this thread of last night to the developments that have taken place since, especially in light of what the Indian Prime Minister and the External Affairs Minister said earlier today.
Here goes ..
Here goes ..
Firstly, let me take you back to yesterday afternoon.
This news first broke at about 1pm on 16 June.
Now that in itself is a very interesting.
The Govt of India chose to wait for nearly 16 hours to make the report of the incident public.
This news first broke at about 1pm on 16 June.
Now that in itself is a very interesting.
The Govt of India chose to wait for nearly 16 hours to make the report of the incident public.
Now what might have gone on within those 16 hours is anybody's guess - might have been trying to get a clear picture of what actually happened, or might have been working backchannels to prevent things from spiralling further .. It's all open to speculation.
But then, there was one interesting news that also came about almost simultaneously with the story breaking - that the Indian authorities will do a formal briefing at 2pm.
I had to pend my lunch break waiting for that briefing.
Alas, it never came!
I had to pend my lunch break waiting for that briefing.
Alas, it never came!
Somehow, instead of being disappointed, I was reminded of a similar press conference from last year that got postponed for reasons 'unknown'!
And true to that intuition, soon thereafter came a couple of tweets from China - thru Shri Hu Xijin, as well as Global Times, acknowledging the 'violent' faceoff but surprisingly, also acknowledging that the Chinese side too had suffered casualties!
This was really interesting.
This was really interesting.
You know why interesting?
Because till that time, the Indian Govt had not said anything about casualties on the Chinese side.
To top it up, Shri Hu seemed a bit 'subdued' from his characteristic bombast of recent days - calling for sanity to prevail, of all things!
Because till that time, the Indian Govt had not said anything about casualties on the Chinese side.
To top it up, Shri Hu seemed a bit 'subdued' from his characteristic bombast of recent days - calling for sanity to prevail, of all things!
Feel free to disagree, but to me, it sounds like a plea not to escalate things any further.
Ok, 'plea' might be something that some folks may not agree with, so let me call it a 'request' instead.
Ok, 'plea' might be something that some folks may not agree with, so let me call it a 'request' instead.
Bottomline - The Chinese were not prepared for this magnitude of casualties on both sides. The very fact that they agreed to casualties on PLA side & also said that they wouldn't want to disclose their numbers, said as much.
They were willing to engage India towards de-escalation
They were willing to engage India towards de-escalation
Ultimately, the MEA did give out an official statement in the evening.
It was clear that the Chinese were unwilling to listen to reason.
The MEA chose to lay the blame squarely on China.
This was also the first official statement from India saying PLA too suffered casualties, btw
It was clear that the Chinese were unwilling to listen to reason.
The MEA chose to lay the blame squarely on China.
This was also the first official statement from India saying PLA too suffered casualties, btw
Mind you, in the middle of it, social media 'warriors' (myself included!) had gone ballistic at the sheer magnitude of the casualties suffered by own side.
Let it suffice to say that this 'violent' faceoff has been far too spectacular to simply wish away.
It just cannot be.
Let it suffice to say that this 'violent' faceoff has been far too spectacular to simply wish away.
It just cannot be.
Once again, let me draw an analogy with the #PulwamaAttack of last year.
This one too is not much different from that attack. The sheer anger that it has generated means that the GOI cannot NOT retaliate.
This one too is not much different from that attack. The sheer anger that it has generated means that the GOI cannot NOT retaliate.
Not retaliating would not only dent the image of the Nation, but also be political suicide for Govt of the Day. Heck, the ghost of 1962 still hangs around the neck of the then Prime Minister.
So no, it wasn't a surprise that Prime Minister Modi said what he said this afternoon.
So no, it wasn't a surprise that Prime Minister Modi said what he said this afternoon.
His words were poignant and loaded with meaning.
The Prime Minister saying those words means that back-channels to seek any mutually agreed way out of this mess.
Of course, as I said before, it is far too big to ignore altogether.
The Prime Minister saying those words means that back-channels to seek any mutually agreed way out of this mess.
Of course, as I said before, it is far too big to ignore altogether.
Right on cue, the Chinese Foreign Minister calling up the Indian EAM soon thereafter!
Of course, a hardened Indian stand doesn't suit the Chinese plan of just browbeating the Indian Army without having to actually fight them man to man, right?
Of course, a hardened Indian stand doesn't suit the Chinese plan of just browbeating the Indian Army without having to actually fight them man to man, right?
The subsequent statement of the Indian External Affairs Minister too made the Indian stance adequately clear - there is no way this latest provocation from China will be left unpunished.
Of course, the Global Times once again recommenced its campaign of 'terrorizing' India with..
Of course, the Global Times once again recommenced its campaign of 'terrorizing' India with..
.. 'jazzy' videos of PLA troops simulating battle practice under controlled conditions!
Yup, very professionally made videos.
But a 'photogenic' army and an effective army are two different things no?
Wrote a blog on that some years ago. Do read!
cestmoizblog.com/2017/08/27/peo…
Yup, very professionally made videos.
But a 'photogenic' army and an effective army are two different things no?
Wrote a blog on that some years ago. Do read!
cestmoizblog.com/2017/08/27/peo…
But then, the big question is - WHAT COMES NEXT?
This is what I wish to devote some time on.
One thing is for sure - the way the Prime Minster and the External Affairs Minister have spoken, something will most likely happen - something very visible.
This is what I wish to devote some time on.
One thing is for sure - the way the Prime Minster and the External Affairs Minister have spoken, something will most likely happen - something very visible.
The earliest that we may see some announcement is 19 June when the all party meet is shall take place.
At the very least, I feel there is some sort of economic retaliation coming up against China.
Let me delve on that for a moment, before moving ahead.
At the very least, I feel there is some sort of economic retaliation coming up against China.
Let me delve on that for a moment, before moving ahead.
India's trade deficit with China is more than $50Bn despite all assurances by China to try and redress this issue.
So economic retaliation does make a lot of sense. After all, China stands to lose much much more than India.
So economic retaliation does make a lot of sense. After all, China stands to lose much much more than India.
But that is not what I am getting at.
What I am more interested in is how China takes economic sanctions from India, if it happens.
How they react will be really interesting to see, even if these are merely pinpricks compared to what the USA is doing with them.
What I am more interested in is how China takes economic sanctions from India, if it happens.
How they react will be really interesting to see, even if these are merely pinpricks compared to what the USA is doing with them.
Would the manic ego of the Chinese comrades permit them to swallow such 'humiliation' at the hands of an 'uppity' India?
With USA it can still be justified - it gives them a sense of having 'arrived' when the sole superpower is fighting an economic war with them.
But India?
With USA it can still be justified - it gives them a sense of having 'arrived' when the sole superpower is fighting an economic war with them.
But India?
Herein lies a challenge as well.
Will this induce China to mellow down their military stand on the LAC?
I'd say no.
The sheer ego of the commies that occupy Tibet will prevent them from accepting such 'humiliation', that too at the hands of a supposedly 'inferior' neighbour.
Will this induce China to mellow down their military stand on the LAC?
I'd say no.
The sheer ego of the commies that occupy Tibet will prevent them from accepting such 'humiliation', that too at the hands of a supposedly 'inferior' neighbour.
So no, do NOT expect China to ever let go of their claims over the Galwan area by such non-kinetic means. They won't back-off just like that.
In fact, economic measures might actually exacerbate the military situation on the LAC.
So, how might that pan out?
In fact, economic measures might actually exacerbate the military situation on the LAC.
So, how might that pan out?
Well, first things first.
Till the time the LAC provocations were limited to face-offs, it didn't really matter how many troops were amassed behind, so long as you could maintain numerical superiority at the point of the faceoff.
Till the time the LAC provocations were limited to face-offs, it didn't really matter how many troops were amassed behind, so long as you could maintain numerical superiority at the point of the faceoff.
However, in case the guns start booming, this won't be the case.
In such a scenario, a LOT will depend upon how many troops can China build up opposite Ladakh. What also has a bearing on this is how many troops can China actually spare for this contingency, given the mess they ..
In such a scenario, a LOT will depend upon how many troops can China build up opposite Ladakh. What also has a bearing on this is how many troops can China actually spare for this contingency, given the mess they ..
.. have created on all other borders.
Remember, there are THREE aircraft carriers of the US Navy patrolling the South China Sea and thereabouts!
So coming back to Ladakh.
Can they build up numerical superiority to actually militarily enforce their claims?
Remember, there are THREE aircraft carriers of the US Navy patrolling the South China Sea and thereabouts!
So coming back to Ladakh.
Can they build up numerical superiority to actually militarily enforce their claims?
And then comes the question of how much numerical superiority is considered enough.
Remember, the Indian EAM said it was a pre-meditated attack by China on night of 15 June.
YET, the PLA suffered fatal and non-fatal casualties to the tune of 40+.
Some 'pre-meditation', this, huh?
Remember, the Indian EAM said it was a pre-meditated attack by China on night of 15 June.
YET, the PLA suffered fatal and non-fatal casualties to the tune of 40+.
Some 'pre-meditation', this, huh?
Now let me further spice things up a bit.
What is to say that a military clash, IF it comes, will stay localized to Ladakh?
Surprised that no one is yet talking about this, atleast none that I came across on my TL.
What is to say that a military clash, IF it comes, will stay localized to Ladakh?
Surprised that no one is yet talking about this, atleast none that I came across on my TL.
When it comes to China, a LOT of historical wrongs have to be righted.
That includes the case of Coco Islands as well, doesn't it?
Feel free to mull over it for a moment before moving ahead.
That includes the case of Coco Islands as well, doesn't it?
Feel free to mull over it for a moment before moving ahead.
Now add to that the other geopolitical and geo-economic battles that China is currently in the midst of.
Can they really afford a shooting match at this time on a border that is about as far as it can be from where they face their biggest challenges?
Can they really afford a shooting match at this time on a border that is about as far as it can be from where they face their biggest challenges?
To sum it up, escalation is very easy to achieve.
Heck, the Chinese have just given us a beautiful example of that in the Galwan River area over the past days and weeks.
But when it comes to de-escalation, things are not so simple.
Especially when you DON'T want to 'lose face'.
Heck, the Chinese have just given us a beautiful example of that in the Galwan River area over the past days and weeks.
But when it comes to de-escalation, things are not so simple.
Especially when you DON'T want to 'lose face'.
And herein lies a huge challenge.
Especially when there has been such a provocation.
Will the Chinese agree to a de-escalation wherein India gets even a 'notion of victory'?
I'd say, no.
They won't.
They CAN'T.
The CCP will HAVE to be 'victorious', whatever may be the case.
Especially when there has been such a provocation.
Will the Chinese agree to a de-escalation wherein India gets even a 'notion of victory'?
I'd say, no.
They won't.
They CAN'T.
The CCP will HAVE to be 'victorious', whatever may be the case.
Such is the nature of communist regimes.
They just cannot be seen to be weak.
So brace yourselves, folks. The coming days promise to be really interesting indeed, to say the least.
They just cannot be seen to be weak.
So brace yourselves, folks. The coming days promise to be really interesting indeed, to say the least.
Indian retaliation may or may not come tomorrow, or day after, or even next week.
But come it surely will.
The first steps are likely to be economic.
Military steps, much needed, if they indeed happen, might come later.
But come it surely will.
The first steps are likely to be economic.
Military steps, much needed, if they indeed happen, might come later.
The Post-COVID world that I talked about a couple of months ago seems to be shaping out just as I thought it would. This thread might be worth a relook at this point in time.
Alternatively, read it here in my blog.
cestmoizblog.com/2020/04/22/the…
cestmoizblog.com/2020/04/22/the…
The above thread / blog were followed by another one, talking specifically about India-China relationship in context of Taiwan. Do read it as well.
cestmoizblog.com/2020/05/18/ind…
cestmoizblog.com/2020/05/18/ind…
If you think an India-China war is coming, well let me break some news to you - it has already started when the PLA came into Galwan with intentions to stay, instead of leaving.
The thing is that the wheels of history seem to be moving faster and faster with each passing day.
The thing is that the wheels of history seem to be moving faster and faster with each passing day.
A lot of changes are likely to come by very soon, including possibly in national boundaries.
Brace yourselves, it will be nothing short of a roller-coaster ride!
In the end, I'll just leave this tweet here.
:fin:
Brace yourselves, it will be nothing short of a roller-coaster ride!
In the end, I'll just leave this tweet here.
:fin:
^^
Above thread in my blog
Above thread in my blog
