Thread by @themultibeast

For the record, on this account I speak to men. In words that work for men. These words aren't for women.

David Deida says the same shit as Rollo. But Deida says it like a man-bun yogi and women LOVE it. Rollo says it like a 80s LA rock nerd and women vomit.

Ideas are the same

I say it in the voice that works for me.

I didn't get it when she said "I don't feel safe because you don't listen to me".

I got it when a man told me "she wants 'safety' as much as you want sex", and listening means just holding it, no solving, no fixing, just validate".

I didn't get it when she said "you're not seeing me"

I got it when a man said "she's like a child, all she's ever saying is 'I don't like how I FEEL. Sit with me until it changes. But don't try to fix it'. Do that and she'll feel heard and seen".

I didn't understand when she said "be vulnerable with me" but every time I did she pulled the sex.

I got it when another guy said "What she says and what she means are different. She really means she wants to FEEL connected, it's not about you at all."

I didn't get it when she acted all emotional for no reason. Confused I combatted it with logic, reason, or emotion

I got it when a guy said "She's shit testing you man. Hold your frame, and watch her behavior change, she'll start to feel safe the more you just hold her emotion".

I didn't get it when she wasn't "in the mood"

I got it when another guy said "she's just a feeling machine, you gotta help orchestrate her feelings, start early, create peaks and valleys, show your alpha and your beta depending on what she's obv needing... not what she's saying"

I didn't get when women said they wanted to be equal to men but only seek men who are richer, taller, stronger, smarter, more socially adept, and overall just BETTER.

I got it when a guy explained hypergamy to me.

I didn't get it when a woman said she didn't want to do X, then changed her mind an hour later when she "felt" better. I thought she was lying, or crazy

I got it when another man explained that to me that to her feelings are TRUTH. She is just responding out of how she FEELS

Like a public speaking coach who tells you to "picture the crowd naked" all these women take issue with the methods and combination of words that open a man's mind.

They get defensive (which just proves the solipsism point btw).

But you don't get to say what works.

For some men, understanding that women are IN SOME WAYS just like children, might me the AHA! that helps them break through and see themselves as a leader of their family; which helps him hold frame for her, and be a better man, husband, father.

All these women commenting on my posts miss the point. This isn't for you. The ideas nor the way I explain them. You're BOUND to disagree, take issue, pick apart. get defensive, or not understand them and gripe about it.

But you're not the arbiters of whether it's right or not. Your behavior is.

Like a child who begs to stay up late, trying to convince you they won't be exhausted in the morning. They're CONVINCED it's true. But you know better. You see how they act. It's like that.

Whatever combination of words works to get men out of their conditioning, then we're gonna use that here. This is men passing notes. Later it can grow for that man into something higher and more spiritual. But a lot of this shit is smelling salts.

I respect the women in this space and their right to exist here but they don't get a say in what words actually WORK to make a man a better man.

"A woman can't define masculinity beyond what she gets from it"