And... it looks like the livestream is off the air. Anyone else have that happen?
Okay, it's back online! I missed the first ten minutes but it's back online. @butterbob owes me a recording tomorrow morning.
Link is here:
I'm gonna pick up here: Cheney gets a question about the growing number of young people living at home. "Does that concern you?"
Cheney said we have seen an expansion in job opportunities, and we need to defeat the pandemic and get the economy going again.
Highlights the Trump administration's opportunity zone program as a way to make that happen.
Greybull says an issue in her community is a lack of housing, not just on the reservation, but in rural communities everywhere.
Notes the woes in the coal industry and how many lost jobs from that, forcing them to flee the state.
Haggit: Homelessness is rising, and it's a problem that's going to get worse if things don't change.
The solution? "Open things back up again."
"When we get to the point where the virus is worse than the cure, you're going to have these problems." (Think he meant the opposite.)
Grey Bull says that following this pandemic, we're likely going to be living with the repercussions of it. Said we need to put human needs first, though she understands that the debt is important.
Looks back to the last recession, and says we can overcome if we put ppl first.
Haggit: Says we need to stop the federal debt now and make sure people aren't "thrown out on the street."
Said we need to cut somewhere else, or stop spending somewhere else. Doesn't specify where, or how.
Cheney: Notes that China holds a significant share of our debt, and their actions increase severity of that problem.
Notes Congress has little say over brunt of the budget -- about 70 percent. Says she's co-sponsored legislation to turn some mandatory to discretionary spending.
What has the pandemic taught you about America's healthcare system?
Haggit: Says healthcare is important, and that his job gave it to him. Says doctors are hamstrung by regulation, and wants homeopathic remedies integrated into America's healthcare system. No context how.
Cheney: Mostly thanks healthcare professionals and first responders.
Grey Bull: Notes the issues seen on the WRR in the early days of COVID. (The reservation is a major hot spot.)
"If you as a leader don't understand that, you're doing a disservice," Grey Bull said. "Leadership should represent everyone that needs the help."
On civil unrest: Cheney says that the violence often overtook peaceful protest, but that we recognize violent riots are not peaceful protests.
On race, Cheney says we need to get back to the values of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Says race has been a problem for a long time, we have not attained those goals, and to get there, we need to "teach our kid those values."
Grey Bull: Says we need to be more concerned about why they are protesting, and learning what people can do to address those problems.
Haggit: Not sure. Quotes the golden rule. That's it.
Cheney adds that she opposes defunding the police, and that we should support law enforcement.
"Nobody wants to get rid of bad cops more than good cops do," said Cheney.
On policing corporations, like big tech: Grey Bull said we need ensure the vitality of small businesses. Says we need fair structure for all businesses.
Haggit: Says Facebook swung 2.5 million votes toward Hillary Clinton (?) and that conservatives are censored on social media
Cheney agrees with conservative censorship, and gives a shout-out to #ownyourdata. Says if you leave a platform, you should be able to take it with you.
Said China is exploiting the reach of these platforms for their benefit.
How should we ensure the U.S. uphold responsibility to tribes?
Haggit: "I don't know."
Cheney: Notes millions were given to tribes during COVID to assuage pre-existing problems. But we need to get more to IHS, to education, and encourage students to get involved with UW.
Grey Bull, who is Northern Arapaho: "We have always had to fight to get our voices heard."
Said that their issues are often pushed aside. Health disparities and low policing and housing and health issues have not been addressed.
Now open dialogue section.
Grey Bull: Highlights long-standing protections for grizzlies, and a statement that a Native American victory in court was "ruining our western way of life."
Cheney says she was referring to federal power to control land without referring to locals
"Too often, decisions from Washington do not understand or recognize the needs of people who work and live on the land," Cheney said.
Grey Bull says public lands mean a lot to people too. "This is an asset for people in Wyoming. We value that."
Cheney responds that it's important we have those lands, but that we also follow the law: that lands be managed for multiple use, whether it's for wilderness or recreational use.
Says we shouldn't allow federal agencies to broadly interpret congressional intent.
Highlights issues like we've seen in eastern Wyoming, where regulations on the grasslands have made it difficult for ranchers to do what they do while staying within the law.
A wide range of topics in the last few minutes, between the separation of powers but also, on the need to preserve free speech on issues like critical infrastructure protests. (Think like what seen on the DAPL.)
On COVID: Cheney says that we face challenging times, and evokes Gov. Gordon's words on responsibility from a presser earlier this week. Says the people of Wyoming have sacrificed, however, and we will come out of this with a "stronger economy and a stronger sense of community."
Grey Bull says she wants to elevate the voices of those who are unheard, but that we need to build bridges between groups as well as political parties.
"I don't want my kids to grow up in this environment where we are at each other's throats. That is not conducive to peace."
Now, a question about the #MullenFire_WY and the problems they've had in getting resources. Would she support a federal new deal-type program for firefighting?
Grey Bull: Yes.
Haggit: Yes.
Cheney: The real cause of the fires is "failed" federal forest management policy. Cites roadless rule, an inability to remove beetle kill, and problems in the logging industry.
Says we need to increase timber sales, highlighting efforts by the USDA to do that.
"We've lost property, we've seen people lose their homes," said Cheney. "It doesn't have to happen and it shouldn't happen."
And that's it! All in all, format much improved from the primary debates.
Gonna pour me another glass of water and get typing. News -- and a slightly stronger beverage -- to follow.
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Lummis calls for consolidating environmental programs and reduce duplicity as a way to reduce spending. Adds we can also look at across the board cuts.
Ben David says we can't "cut our way out" of this crisis. Citing FDR, says we need to invest in innovation and infrastructure.
Says investing in that will allow us to recover our debt by turning the country into an economic powerhouse.
Lummis says we need to be transparent about it. On the ESA, notes the information is proprietary, and that we need agency reform.
(Had a hard time following this seg)
On closing the wage gap... Ben David retreads stances we've seen on the campaign trail.
Lummis said she made the issue the "centerpiece" of her work in the legislature. But this is not something we dictate to private business, she said. Says we need to educate biz on the problem
He wasn't a big mover and shaker in city hall, nor did he really do anything noteworthy. Joel was just an everyday dude who in my time, never missed a planning board meeting, common council meeting, you name it.
The thing about these meetings is that the only time anyone ever shows up, they're usually there to complain about something specific. A lot of the time, you would never see them again. Not Joel. He was there every time. No specific agenda at all, just opinions about his city.
The tireless folks at @WyomingPBS have another debate tonight at 7 p.m. This one with the Democratic candidates for U.S. House @GreyBull4WY and @BeachforWyoming.
Link below, and live tweets will be threaded here. #WYPol
We're underway. Carol Hafner, citing coronavirus concerns and a lack of internet bandwidth, declined not to participate.
There will be no U.S. House debate for the Republicans this year. While @Liz_Cheney agreed to debate candidate Blake Stanley declined.
Greybull begins, saying that we need COVID-19 recovery to not be a bailout for big corporations and for healthcare to be accessible to all.
Beach on a similar line, saying we've left "thousands" of people vulnerable.
Rex Wilde, who has run for a number of offices over the years, is also onstage. He most recently ran for governor in 2018.
James Kirk Debrine is also onstage. The state Democratic Party has already called on him to drop out, but he refused to do so. trib.com/news/state-and…
Currently, Corey Steinmetz, the incumbent, is leading Sam Galeotos for national committeeman. Harriet Hageman leading Barbara Cubin for committeewoman.
The ones down were endorsed by McGinley, as well as mainstream Republicans like Mike Enzi, Foster Friess, and Cynthia Lummis.
McGinley hopped on arguing that some people may not have received ballots -- we had 400+ people on the call and fewer than 300 votes cast. Waiting to hear more.
268 people filled out a ballot and submitted out of 463 eligible total delegates. Huh.