@AnnMemmott@ElaineMcgreevy@EmilioLees@abaukdiscussion@milton_damian Well, I stumbled upon today that Christie seems to have been misleading people since 2007 about Newson's views on Pervasive Developmental Disorders & PDA. Do not know if it is deliberate or not. Either way not a good look.
Yes, refers to an out of date image from 1999 and not Newson's later views on the topic.
@AnnMemmott@ElaineMcgreevy@EmilioLees@abaukdiscussion@milton_damian Newson changed the diagram to include specific language impairments. She had wider definition & view PDD umbrella than what is accepted. Also said helpful to think persons with a PDD have coding issues.
@AnnMemmott@ElaineMcgreevy@EmilioLees@abaukdiscussion@milton_damian The weird thing is that is from what I can tell Newson could have argued for PDA to be included in accepted PDD umbrella understandings. I.e. without presenting PDA & creating her own version of PDD umbrella.
@AnnMemmott@ElaineMcgreevy@EmilioLees@abaukdiscussion@milton_damian Previous image is from DSM-4. Best guess, is that Newson did what she did as she was still working from her own diagnostic grouping understandings from 1986 - 1996: Pervasive Developmental Coding Disorders:
@AnnMemmott@ElaineMcgreevy@EmilioLees@abaukdiscussion@milton_damian Newson knew of the triad of impairment in 1982, before she created Pervasive Developmental Disorders grouping in 1986 & PDA behaviour profile in 1988. She never based PDA on the triad of impairment. Nor systematically assessed for autism features.
Some reasons why I use Newson's work: 1) Newson never viewed PDA as an ASD and this is reflected in her diagnostic criteria and clinical descriptions. She certainly never argued fitting PDA into 2 main diagnostic manuals based on accepted diagnostic groupings
2) Newson included non-autistic persons in her 2 diagnostic groupings, her own Pervasive Developmental Disorders grouping and her own NEW Pervasive Developmental Coding Disorder.
3) Newson never assessed persons with PDA for autism or systematically investigated autism features. 4) Newson often deliberately did things if she thought they helped other stakeholders, mainly parents.
I do not believe it. It appears that Christie submitted evidence to have PDA recognised as an ASD in Australia. Did not disclose COI or mention pertinent information that would undermine PDA recognition.
@ElaineMcgreevy Possibly, but there is this, a table for my chapter for Damian & Sara. It shows that PDA clinical features are often based against autism stereotypes. Stereotypes often seem to become accepted clinical fact.
@ElaineMcgreevy I have updated the table to this, mainly changing PDA to DAP. Also noting that demand avoidance generally is manipulative.
@ElaineMcgreevy There is something that is nagging me. So mental health disorders are meant to represent discrete constellation of traits/ "symptoms" that hang together to form a unique syndrome. adc.bmj.com/content/archdi…
I am reflecting on Newson's "Surface sociability, but lack of sense of identity, pride, or shame" trait. There are aspects of it which are problematic, infact I would argue are an RRBI, or should be removed from it.
Her logic also seems faulty.
My concerns centre around the inclusion of behaviours that seem to indicate distress. Which means if a person is displaying these behaviours due to distress, they would be highly aroused.
@tinkerbellbites@milton_damian@martinbeecher@GillLoomesQuinn@PDASociety Newson did not systematically assess for autism features because she was trying to show PDA was different to autism, to warrant PDA being a "thing". She originally conceptualised it as a new type of disorder. Spent 15 years researching that behaviour profile.