Thread by @jentaub

🧵Here we go. Anything could happen tonight. Final debate, moderated by Kristin Welker. #Debates2020

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First question is for Trump 🎃. Welker asked how he was going to manage the coronavirus going forward.

🎃 Trumpkin blames China again and claims that he should get credit because 2 million more people didn't die. Said "we have a vaccine that's coming, that's ready."

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🎃Says military will distribute. He said "this is a worldwide problem" and say she was "congratulated" by world leaders. Mentions how great the goggles are, etc.

Said, "we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner. It's going away."

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🇺🇸 Biden responds to the question about leading the country out of the coronavirus crisis by referencing 220,000 Americans who have died. He said "anyone responsible for that many deaths should not remain President of the United States of America."

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🇺🇸Biden also said we could save 100,000 lives if only 🎃 would tell people to wear masks.

Biden said NE Medical Journal said way Trump has responded to the crisis has been tragi.

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Welker asked Trump about his statement that the vaccine would be coming in weeks. 🎃said it was not "a guarantee" but there would be one by the end of the year.

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🎃 Trump said a top general is "ready to go" once we have 100 million vials. Mentioned Johnson & Johnson and Moderna.

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🇺🇸Biden said we are about to go into a dark winter and Trump has no real plan. Said President said it was going away by Easter.

🎃Trump said "I don't think we are going to have a dark winter at all."

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Now 🎃 Trump is trying to point to imaginary numbers about H1N1 from when Biden was VP.

🇺🇸 Biden said Trump is xenophobic, but not because he shut down travel from China. Said Trump said in January that President Xi was being transparent. Trump "did virtually nothing."

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🇺🇸 Biden said no respectable scientist thinks it's going away

🎃Trump said it's not going away, but, "we're learning to live with it." Says Biden "has this thing about living in the basement." Said, "we have to recover."

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🇺🇸 Biden said, Trump said we are 'learning to live with it,' but instead "we are learning to die with it"

What should the people do about the danger. And you say, you take no responsibility.

🎃Trump says he takes responsibility, but then blamed China

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🎃Trump said "I was kidding on that" (injecting bleach).

Biden is nailing this. He is doing so very well

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Welker asked about shut downs

🇺🇸 Biden said "I'm going to shut down the virus, not the country." Said instead of "being in a sand trap in his golf course," Trump should have been negotiating with @TeamPelosi to get support to the country.

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🇺🇸Biden said that "Schools need a lot of money to open." Smaller classes and so on. But Trump refuses to support that.

🎃 Trump says all Biden talks about is shutting down.

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Welker asked about Boston shutting down schools and going entirely virtual

🎃"We cannot keep this country closed. . .People are losing their jobs. They are committing suicide. . .There's abuse, tremendous abuse. We have to open our country."

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🇺🇸 Biden said that Trump's accusation that Biden wanted to shut everything down was simply not true. He said "we can walk and chew gum at the same time." Businesses need social distancing. Smart steps to open.

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🎃 Trump said New York is a "ghost town." Said everyone is "leaving New York."

🇺🇸 Biden said, I don't look at this like the red states and the blue states. Though virus spikes are in the red states. These are all the states are the United States.

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It is clear that Biden is winning this debate.

Welker said you called Fauci and others an "idiot." 🎃 Trump said Fauci said, "this is not going to be a problem . . this is going away soon."

Fact Check false. (While initially he said masks were not necessary).

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🇺🇸Biden said that Trump told your colleague (he meant Bob Woodward) that he knew how dangerous the virus was but he did not want people to panic. Biden said about Trump "Americans don't panic. He panicked"

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Some chatter that did not make a lot of sense from Trump about how Biden took money from Wall Street. This was Trump's attempt to deflect from the news story last week that someone in the Trump administration tipped off some traders telling them to sell stocks

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🇺🇸 Biden said Trump's own national security adviser told him that "his buddy Rudy Giuliani is being used as a Russian pawn."

Putin pays bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, and tries to destabilize. Why doesn't Trump condemn

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🎃 Instead of responding to the comment on why Trump doesn't criticize Putin, claimed Biden took money from mayor of Moscow. Trump said he never got money from Russia. "There's no one tougher than me on Russia."

FACT CHECK: Bullshit

usatoday.com/story/news/fac…

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🇺🇸 Biden said, "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source anytime in my life"

Said Trump paid three times as much tax in China than he did in the US.

I've released 22 years of my tax returns. Trump has not released a single solitary year. What are you hiding?

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🎃 This is laughable. Trump claims he wants to release his tax returns, he checked with his accountant. Also said he "pre-paid" his taxes. Joe has a smirk on his face.

"I don't make money from China, you do. . . ."

LOL

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Welker asked when can you release your taxes. "As soon as the audit is over."

"Deep down in the IRS they treat me horribly."

Says he's treated "very badly" worse than the tea party.

This is BULLSHIT. He didn't prepay his taxes, he got tax credits from losing.

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🇺🇸"They do know that you're not paying your taxes" or too little. So, just show us.

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🎃 Trump said "witch hunt". Drink! (I'm drinking diet snapple)!

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Welker asked whether anything Biden did was wrong due to son's board work on Ukrainian company.

🇺🇸Biden said, nothing I did was out of line.

"The guy who got into trouble in Ukraine was this guy. . ." who tried to bribe the president of Ukraine.

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🎃 Burisma. Drink!

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🇺🇸No one said anything Hunter did in Ukraine was wrong, and this was investigated.

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Welker asked Trump about his hidden bank account in China.

🎃Trump says it was listed. (It wasn't on his published financial forms). He said he closed in in 2015.

FACT CHECK: NYT article indicates his business there was getting millions in 2017

nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/…

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🎃 Trump is lying and lying and lying about Biden and China.

Brilliantly, Kristen Welker ignores him and asked the question she wanted to ask about the trade war he started with China

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🇺🇸 Malarkey, said Biden.

He pivots and redirects the conversation to families in trouble. "The last thing he wants to talk about."

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🎃 Trump faces question from Welker about his "beautiful letters" with North Korean President Kim Jong-un. "We have a very good relationship, and there's no war."

He dodges the question about how Kim violated agreement.

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🇺🇸 Biden now responds to the question about how he would manage problem with North Korea. He said, he needs to get China to help agree.

Biden said Trump's good buddy, Kim is a "thug, a thug." And they have more missiles.

Won't meet without preconditions.

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🎃 Trump. "He left me a mess. They left me a mess."

Wah-wah. Whine. Whine.

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Welker asked about protecting people with pre-existing conditions if SCOTUS destroys Obamacare (the ACA). Note he is arguing on November 10th in SCOTUS to destroy it.

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🎃 Trump claims it is no longer Obamacare after the 2017 tax bill when Republicans destroyed individual mandate

He claims he'll protect pre-existing conditions that 180 million have great, private healthcare. And says Biden will terminate those policies.

Fact check. No

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🇺🇸I'm going to pass Obamacare with a public option, called Bidencare. Also will reduce premiums and drug prices. Allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

"I support private insurance."

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🇺🇸Biden said re Trump, "There's no way he can protect pre-existing conditions. . . He's never come up with a plan." We'll see that plan when we see his infrastructure plan.

Over 110 million Americans have pre-existing conditions.

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🇺🇸 Biden said, "Everyone should have the right to have affordable health care."

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🎃 Trump is so STUPID. Claims that Biden "didn't do anything" for health insurance as VP.

Ummm. Obamacare. Hello. He's trying to build on that.

Now Trump is talking about fracking for some unrelated reason.

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🇺🇸Biden: "People deserve to have affordable healthcare. Period. Period. Period."

"He keeps talking about it. He hasn't done a thing."

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🎃 Trump says that a public option will destroy Medicare and Social Security. This makes zero sense.

🇺🇸"He's a very confused guy. . .Joe Biden he's running against" not other candidates.

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🇺🇸"We're I come from . . people don't live off the stock market." Billionaires made $700 billion more dollars because that's his only measure.

🎃 "401ks are through the roof"

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Welker is doing AMAZINGLY tonight.

She asked Trump about the millions out of work and desperate, "why haven't you been able to get them the help they need"

🎃 Trump blames Nancy Pelosi.

Always someone to blame

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Welker said why hasn't Biden pushed Dems to get a deal.

🇺🇸Biden said Dems passed the Heroes Act this summer

🎃 Trump said the Heroes Act was a bailout for Democratic cities and would help immigrants.

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🇺🇸"I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I am" going to be an American President. This is United States of America.

Very important point that the states need funding and Trump is starving them.

Biden says small businesses need bailouts. 1/6 are going under.

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🇺🇸 Small businesses and schools need help. This guy is not helping them.

🎃 Trump said he would consider to raise the minimum wage

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🇺🇸"No one should work two jobs, one job" and live in poverty. Says we clap for first responders. They deserve a minimum wage of $15.

No evidence that businesses go out of business he said.

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Welker said US cannot locate parents of more than 500 children, how will they be reunited. His administration separated thousands.

🎃 Trump dodges question. Said coyotes take kids here.

Welker asks again, how will you reunited.

"We're trying very hard."

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🇺🇸"These 500 plus kids came with parents. . .they separated them . . "

🎃 Trump deflects by mentioning detention centers including cages set up under Obama.

Trump claims "they are so well taken care of."

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🇺🇸 Biden stand up for DACA kids. Said 20,000 of the DACA kids now grown up are first responders.

🎃 Trump said he had eight years and said he got rid of "catch and release."

🇺🇸 Biden said people showed up for their hearings

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🎃 Trump said only 1 percent of the people came back after coming in and seeking asylum. Said only people "with the lowest IQ".

FACT CHECK See this article. 98 percent showed up for court dates

nbcnews.com/storyline/immi…

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Welker asked both candidates about "the talk" that parents of Black children need to have to help protect them from police brutality. Do you understand why they fear for children

🇺🇸 Biden answers well, and talks about wealth accumulation as well as being free from violence

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🎃 Trump is supposed to respond to the question of whether he understands why parents fear for their children. He said other than perhaps President Lincoln "no one has done more for the Black community" than me.

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🇺🇸 Biden said, I never said what he accused me of saying (re super-predators). Also, Biden said Trump said that the problem with the crime bill was that not enough people were in jail.

Biden reminds us of his call for death penalty for Central Park accused.

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🇺🇸Biden said there should be no minimum mandatory sentences in states, and there should be drug courts and rehab not jail.

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🎃"I ran because of Barack Obama. I thought he did a poor job. . I ran because of you."

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🇺🇸Biden said "The character of the country is on the ballot."

🎃 Trump said, don't tell me you're "an innocent baby." Starts talking about the "laptop from hell"

🇺🇸 Biden said Hundreds of former intelligence "What he is accusing me of is a Russian plant."

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Once again, @kwelkernbc is doing brilliantly here. Hats off to her

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Welker asked about white supremacy and his retweeting hateful statements and so on.

🎃 "It makes me sad . . I am the least racist person in this room. . . .I don't even care who's in the room."

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🇺🇸 Biden goes through "This guy is a dog whistle as big as a fog horn."

🎃Trump is LOSING HIS MIND because Trump referred to him as "Abraham Lincoln here". Said black men know you treated them very badly

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Welker, why should families of black men incarcerated for drug crimes vote for you?

🇺🇸Biden said the 1994 crime bill was a mistake. We should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense. We need treatment for drug and alcohol problems.

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🎃Trump (who by the way has been President which is a politician for nearly four years thought he was stinging Biden by saying, "It's all talk no action with these politicians."

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🎃 Trump's hands look very pink and swollen like raw sausage.

Also, no new tone from Trump. He has a mocking tone and he's still a pig. No insult intended pigs. I'm sorry.

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Welker moved onto a question about the environment.

🎃 It's a lot of nonsense from Trump. "We have the cleanest air and cleanest water" He tries to justify pulling out of Paris Accord because other countries are polluting, but he ignores that we had a head start on them.

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🇺🇸Biden says "we have a moral obligation" to deal with climate change and we are headed to the point of no return in not many years.

Labor and environmental groups support Biden's plan, he said.

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🎃 vs. 🇺🇸

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Okay, when is this going to end. Tired of

🎃"They are all hoping through hoops for AOC plus three."

That's Congresswoman @AOC to you, Donald.

I cannot wait to call him #CitizenDonald.

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🇺🇸 Biden says "I don't know where he comes from" with his numbers. He reiterates labor and environmental groups support.

"He things wind causes cancer. Windmills." Hey @gtconway3d

Said solar and wind growth industries, create jobs

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🎃 Trump said Biden wanted to ban fracking and said he had the tape

🇺🇸 Biden said he never said that, and to put the tape on your website

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🇺🇸 Biden said he does not want fracking or drilling on federal land

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🎃 Trump when asked about how poor communities are impacted badly by environmental harm that "they are making a tremendous amount of money."

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🇺🇸Biden said Trump doesn't understand that people live on fence lines near chemical plants and refineries. Said when mom drove him to school during first frost, there was an "oil slick" on the window.

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🎃 Trump: Would you close down the oil industry.

🇺🇸 Biden: We need to transition over time, stop giving subsidies to oil industries

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🇺🇸He takes everything out of context. We have to move toward a net-zero emissions. . . Will rejoin Paris Accord and get China to do what they agreed to

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Walker asked if you win, what will you say during inaugural address to people who did not vote for you?

🎃 Trump didn't answer. "We have to make our country totally successful . ..before the plague came in, I was getting calls from . . people who wanted to get together."

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🇺🇸Biden said he's president for all. "We're going to choose science over fiction, hope over fear. Create millions of new jobs. Decency, honor, respect.

Chance to do well. "You haven't been getting it the last four years."

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That's a wrap.

Extra points for Dr. Jill Biden's matching mask.

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