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Understanding “Deaths from the pandemic” is much more complicated than it should be. Trying to compare US figures to other countries is even worse.
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This is aimed at the political discourse, not a comprehensive discussion of the statistics or underlying science. There are literally thousands of moving parts. But I will try to give you some of the stronger issues so you have the armor you need.
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Political dialogue follows:
1) 230,000 deaths have occurred in the US from the Pandemic.

This number is overinflated compared to many countries. The US has a rigorous way of counting deaths and is overly generous in the way COVID19 deaths are defined.
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You need to understand the following:
- Democrat governors(mostly in the Northeast) killed tens of thousands through gross negligence by moving the actively ill into nursing homes. This accounted for many of the deaths in New York and New Jersey. The exact number is hidden.
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Even today New York is doing everything they can to obfuscate these numbers. But there is an interesting graph from Statista that gives some insight.
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It is still difficult there are many moving factors, Democrats will point to higher living density but this is only a factor.
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The important information is about death rate by age. It is mostly a fatal disease of the old and elderly. Comorbidities heavily impact who will die but except for tragic often unexplained exceptions the vast majority are older. The math is the math. 10/28/2020 Covid deaths
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By age the pattern shows:
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79 percent of deaths are in the group over 65 and we have known this since February. This is important for many reasons:
-this group is easier to protect, as many are not working
-lockdowns directed at the general population were and are stupid.
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But now let’s turn back to New York. (And New Jersey) Things bad happened here:
- high density accelerates the epidemic
-they got hit early due to foolish policies at the beginning of the epidemic, remember “come to New York and enjoy the party” on Chinese New Year?
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-they moved the sick into extended care facilities
-there are large populations of Italians and Iranians in New York

That said, New York/New Jersey specific issues led to the excess death rate. From the NYT, 38% of deaths have been in extended care.
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(nytimes.com/interactive/20…)

And remember.
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These combine to clearly show A few states had things go wildly wrong, perhaps not all their direct fault but the evidence is that the Democrat governors here messed up, badly. Among other things, they failed to protect the vulnerable.
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These all combine to increase deaths.

2) The count itself is off. Let’s use New York again. A very large percentage of CIVID19 deaths are “probable”. While some of the probable deaths are in fact COVID19 many were never even confirmed as having the disease.
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Other Western countries allow this, but do not do it. Germany is a particularly good example, probable deaths are almost non-existent. What is the real number, our loose counting procedures could result in over counting up to ~20% of total US deaths, we do not know.
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3) The US has done so badly:
- a bad response by a few states have caused a significant misperception in the US pandemic
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-flattening the curve delays the progression of the epidemic. The US compared to Europe let the disease go, but except for better treatments available now, Europe is catching up quickly; the delays have run out. The European response was an economy destroying illusion.
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- other places like NZ, Australia, Thailand, Japan and others have done so much better. They have but we have to ask, why? There are many factors at work. Islands can isolate, and there appears to be immunity in much of Southeast Asia and Oceania.
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These areas also accept freedom killing intrusion, and many others factors exist. Comparing us to Europe is more appropriate. In short, we have done much less damage to our economy and the pandemic is worse in Europe now than in the US.
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- Did they all have to die? Our Democrat dominated bureaucracy has fought for Big Pharma not the citizens of the US. It is simply unconscionable. Retrospective studies have shown many potential effective treatments.
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Hydroxychloroquine combined with Azithromycin and Zinc is one of dozens there are many others showing great promise from Vitamin D to Ivermectin. Where are the RCTs, where is the advice to take zinc and Vitamin D? The drive is toward vaccines, meanwhile people are dying.
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It is a guess but it is reasonable that if we were aggressively using everything we know about these repurposed drugs we could have prevented up to 80% of the deaths. The correlation of deaths to Vitamin D and Zinc deficiency was identified in January.

Who did this?
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The unresponsive authoritarian Democrat dominated bureaucracy aided by an unhinged press, hyper partisan politicians and TDS affected academics.

4) There are other things to consider like death fraud, casedemic versus deaths, and the economic devastation.
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But most importantly, deaths resulting from lockdown are climbing rapidly and will exceed COVID19 deaths. The reasons are varied: despair, fear of seeking treatment, food chain disruption, even the violence in the streets is made worse by people losing their jobs.
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The toll of economic destruction will be much greater than the pandemic itself. It, likely, will cross over in the next year to being the greater worldwide cause of death.
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