What consequences will James Murray and his clients face for being wrong?

Since he raises the subject of liability, and as there isn't an estimate of the cost which comes in at less than a £trillion, what is he prepared to forfeit?
The lockdowners are ruinously, dangerously wrong.

The climate hawks are ruinously, dangerously wrong.

They want us to pay for their position. It is no risk to them, their jobs, their homes, their businesses.

Fearmongers risk nothing.
When you argue the point, they say, "you deny climate change/Covid19".

Never have. Never did.

I argued that there are better ways to manage problems, and even crises, than by giving power to remote, self-serving anti-democratic technocracies.
He couldn't even read the thread.

Fearmongers imagine others' arguments.

That's why they have to call them 'deniers', and claim that arguing for the focused protection of vulnerable people is calling to "let it rip".

It's bad faith.

In case you missed it...

He did exactly what I said he would do, in one move.

I would use a chess analogy. But I don't actually know if it's possible to check mate oneself.

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3 Nov
I find it interesting to see how robust models that are used in policymaking are. Not 'robust' in the sense of 'skill', but 'robust' in the sense that they seem to survive, despite their lack of it. It's always the same characters and organisations behind them.
It is as if the individuals and organisations have been appointed to produce the models on which the policymaking will depend, rather than the most skilful model emerging after some kind of scientific process -- which is of course the conceit.
The presuppositions are numerous. But the most troubling is the fact that it might be the case that no model has any skill, and that models which appear to have skill, merely accidently produce results which closely match reality.
Read 7 tweets
2 Nov
It is remarkable that the BBB campaigners think that Covid-19 is their opportunity for advancing Net Zero.

What it has instead done is trained many millions of people in the language in which they can challenge remote technocrats and their bullshit.

Models... Projections...
Nobody is going to look at a chart in the same way again...

"You mean, *this* is the basis on which you want me to give up my car, pay tens of £thousands for retrofitting my home, and make my whole family go vegan?!"
In an odd way, perhaps we will have SAGE and Imperial to thank for equipping the public debate with the terms of engagement -- things which journalists, broadcasters and politicians would have run a mile from.
Read 4 tweets
2 Nov
Good points raised in this report, but "awareness" & "explanation" won't be enough to persuade people to accept consequences of #NetZero.

Consent for ambitious policies must exist before they are made law. Since the 2000s, there has been no democracy in UK climate policymaking.
An example. The report finds that "retrofitting the home requires a significant upfront cost estimated at up to £15,000". This won't make a home 'net zero'.

How many homeowners and/or landlords are going to have £15K lying around between now and when? Nobody's saving!
To make a home truly #Netzero WRT heating will cost multiples of £15K.

The consumer does the quick calculation. How many years will it take to pay back the £15K?

Back-of-an-envelope: 30 years.

That doesn't sound like a good deal. And it's not going to be the only expense.
Read 21 tweets
1 Nov
It should be a warning to the world that everything he has done has been a failure.
Democracy never troubled Ed Miliband, who was parachuted from the backroom of the Treasury into the safe seat of Doncaster North. Which is to say FUCK YOU to the people of Doncaster, from the people of Primrose Hill.

It was the same for Ed's championing of climate change...
He never campaigned. He never canvassed. He never contested. He never had to win a debate. He knew that what he know was right, and that what was right must be imposed on people.
Read 10 tweets
28 Oct
The public were told that there was "no risk"?

We must have imagined Project Fear, then.
Summarised here...

It was one of many tweets that had been triggered by Claire Fox appearing on BBC Radio 4.

It sends them into spasms of rage.
Read 15 tweets
27 Oct
The arrogance of this puffed-up civil servant...
They're not even a government department.

Parliament abandoned itself to this weird bunch of technocrats and cronies.

There is zero democratic oversight.

Note this word: "behaviour".

The quango believes it is its role to modify *your* behaviour.

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