Okay! I think it's FINALLY time to get back into this!

So, remember last year when I started my project to read and analyze LM Montgomery's catalogue and the adaptations based on those works but then I had a hard summer and then the holidays happened and then I broke my spine?
Probably you don't!

So if you need to catch up, you can find my masterlist of posts here where I've posted them from Twitter lainahastoomuchsparetime.wordpress.com/anne-of-green-…
The Anne of Green Gables recaps start here lainahastoomuchsparetime.wordpress.com/2019/02/02/ann…

I also suggest checking out the post where I talk specifically about fashion in Anne lainahastoomuchsparetime.wordpress.com/2019/09/14/lai…

And we previously discussed the 1934 Anne of Green Gables movie https://t.co/xgAPJkYfSK
And I think it is time for us to begin talking about the 1985 adaptation of Anne of Green Gables!

Hashtagged with #LainaWatchesAnne for easy blacklisting/finding all the tweets.

Let's discuss!
#LainaWatchesAnne First, actually, some background. Anne of Green Gables 1985 is actually a two part mini-series. It aired on December 1st and December 2nd, 1985 on the CBC.

It was among the highest rated programs to ever air on a Canadian TV channel.
#LainaWatchesAnne It also aired on PBS in the US and was released theatrically in Iran, Isreal, Europe, and Japan.

And this is a 3 hour mini-series! I wonder if they showed it in two different showings or had an intermission, or if people just really needed to pee at the end.
#LainaWatchesAnne Like I'm down for a 3 hour movie if it's well-done, but I really would need a break to pee in the middle. And a popcorn refill if we're actually in a theatre would be nice, too.
#LainaWatchesAnne (I have a note here that just says "spine sigh" because I wrote this when I couldn't sit up for that long but now I can sit for longer periods... and there's a pandemic. I miss going to the movies.)
#LainaWatchesAnne Anyways!

Anne 1985, as we'll be referring to it, was written and directed by Kevin Sullivan and produced by his company Sullivan Entertainment for the CBC. It was filmed in Canada and actually starts mostly Canadians, unlike Anne 1945. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne Fun? face, Montgomery's heirs actually sued him over this series. I don't actually fully understand this, but there seems to have been some slightly shady business going on - on both sides. There are court cases in several countries.
#LainaWatchesAnne (Japan and Canada being the main ones as far as I know.)

As I understand it, Sullivan owns the rights to this specific univers, which in my opinion is kinda fair? Transfomative works and all that, good precident.
#LainaWatchesAnne However, her published works entered public domain after 1992. You can legally make versions based on it all you want, but Montgomery's heirs established the Anne of Green Gables Licencing Authority and it's unusual not to get their permission. Apparently.
#LainaWatchesAnne Again, not a law expert so I don't fully get all this.

There also was apparently an off-Broadway version of the Anne musical that remade the long-running Canadian one. They did not ask the AoGGLA for approval, and people were unhappy.
#LainaWatchesAnne It seems to have gotten fine reviews, but it didn't make much of an impact as far as I can tell.

The AoGGLA did warn them not to sell merchandise, though.
#LainaWatchesAnne Stay with me here - I'm almost to the actual adaptation but I think this is interesting/kind of funny.

There was also this website called Anne's Diary that got in a bit of trouble for using Anne imagery without permission.
#LainaWatchesAnne It isn't the same anymore - I think it kind of died - but it was like a children's chatroom that used fingerprint scanning for security? WEIRD idea, imo.
#LainaWatchesAnne I did, however, check it out using the Wayback Machine and it seems pretty basic. The idea of a social network for children using biometrics is just so weird.

And by early 2013, it had been taken over by URL squatters. ImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne Soooo that tangent aside, let's talk about Anne 1985! Image
#LainaWatchesAnne Amusingly, this starts by immediately going off book. Anne is walking through the woods reading Tennyson's The Lady of Shallot.

There's a very nice shot where we get a good look at her, though. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne They made the interesting choice to actually show Anne at the Hammond's place. Mrs. Hammond is awful, this one kid is crying so miserably I'm slightly worried for the actual kid, and I swear at least one of these kids is older than Anne. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne Mrs. Hammond then takes inspiration from the evil stepmother in Ever After and burns Anne's book. Anne is understandably devastated.

Also, I hate her. ImageImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne Anne goes to bring dinner to Mr. Hammond and he promptly collapses of a heart attack.

He ded, folks.

Anne talks to her reflection/imaginary friend Katie and blames herself for Mr. Hammond's death because she was late with lunch. Poor kid.
#LainaWatchesAnne Then we get a scene that you could edit to be a funny meme. This woman (Mrs. Hammond's... sister? Friend? It's not clear) is rubbing her shoulders and tells Mrs. H to sell the mill and come live with her.
#LainaWatchesAnne Her voice is absolutely flat, and in another version of this story, she totally killed Mr. H. ImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne They talk about sending Anne back to the orphanage. Mrs Hammond also blames her because she tooks lunch to Mr H an hour late, calls her trash, and seriously this part is darker than I think people remember.

They call her trash and are NASTY.
#LainaWatchesAnne Hammond has apparently given her children away to any relative who would take one by the time she takes Anne back to the orphanage. She seems... very super incredibly not at all broken up about it.
#LainaWatchesAnne Hammond also tells us that Anne just turns twelve in March and gives us a little backstory on her parents. Hezekiah is now the name Anne doesn't like.
#LainaWatchesAnne Despite the orphanage being overcrowded and the director saying they can't take Anne for at least another month, Mrs Hammond just says "Peace, bitches" and fucks off, leaving Anne there.
#LainaWatchesAnne Anne spends 6 months in the orphanage before the director tells her two families have requested two girls to come live with them in PEI and Anne is to be one of them.

And I think this happens in winter and she has to wait a bit? They say "after Christmas".
#LainaWatchesAnne That's just a timeline note.

I wanted to be a bit more specific talking about the first 10 minutes as none of this is directly shown in the book. They took the chapter Anne's Backstory and instead of having Anne just tell Marilla all that, they showed it.
#LainaWatchesAnne And I think that's a great idea! It's all 100% book canon, but it's showing it instead of telling it. To me, that's a great way to expand on Anne of Green Gables. It also works much better in the visual medium versus written word to show it.
#LainaWatchesAnne Anne arrives to Bright River and then we cut to a pretty yellow house where Someone is Watching Nosily.

Also the lilacs are beautiful. I kind of missed the lilacs this year because I couldn't do a lot of walking yet. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne Thomas (Mrs Rachel's husband) suggest Matthew might be "going courting" which Mrs Rachel calls "utterly ridiculous". This scene follows the book exactly, as does the next where we meet Marilla.
#LainaWatchesAnne Mrs Rachel is also confirmed to be a Lynde, and not a Barry. I truly can't get over the choice to combine those two characters in the 1945 one.
#LainaWatchesAnne This Marilla is great, also. She gives this smile like she's trying as hard as possible to make Mrs. Rachel leave. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne And when I say this follows the book, most of the dialogue is directly fom the book. And the dynamic between Mrs. Rachel and Marilla is great. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne Rachel and Marilla really seem like old friends with a complex relationship.

Oh, small but smart choice - they say Matthew is "getting along in age" instead of putting a number on it. Even in 1985, we didn't see 60 as *quite* as old as when Anne was published.
#LainaWatchesAnne It's honestly really cool seeing how much of this scene is directly from the book.

Also cool is the Bright River set. (And cue the first of many times of Luce squeeing over the horses.) (Yes I force them to watch all these with me.) Image
#LainaWatchesAnne MUCH to my relief, this Matthew is not immensely creepy like 1945 Matthew. There's a very cute scene where he peeks around the corner of the station and then hides in panic upon seeing Anne. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne He doesn't speak very much to her and he always seems just a little uncomfortable with himself, and unsure in general.

Last year, I asked if y'all who are austistic read Matthew as autistic, and I actually wonder that a bit more in this?
#LainaWatchesAnne He very much seems like a man who has a set routine that he doesn't vary much from and changes in that routine really throw him.

I could also see him having social anxiety (or both!) but I dunno. It would be kind of cool, I think, if he was autistic.
#LainaWatchesAnne Also, everything is super pretty in this movie, as it should be. ImageImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne Overall, Matthew seems very thoughtful and like he's really listening to her and not creepy, which again is an improvement over Anne 1945.

They really have a great dynamic.
#LainaWatchesAnne Also I discovered a mistake I made previously. Anne actually does say her eyes are green in the book on the drive to Green Gables, but every other time it comes up, they're described as grey.

So, 1934 (...the other mistake I've been making) I apologize.
#LainaWatchesAnne 1934, you, as with this version, were using the book's dialogue.

I legit went and searched this - her eyes are said "to look green in some lights and moods and grey in others". But they're always described as grey after that first time.

That one's on the book
#LainaWatchesAnne They made a cool choice in letting Anne do most of the talking on the drive. True to book, but it's also a good way to get a sense of her character and also how Megan Follows actually plays her.

And this is a good Green Gables ImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne This isn't the real Green Gables in PEI but is very similar besides being larger. Ironically, the gables are not actually green. (Gables are the triangle portion of the outside walls under the roof.)

(Green Gables photo via wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gree…) ImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne Also did you notice the fence that suddenly appears as we get closer to Green Gables? The Sullivan Company brought that - it wasn't the house's - so it doesn't appear in some of the establishing shots that were shot before the rest of the filming started.
#LainaWatchesAnne So inside, we see the parlour, a glimpse of the (previously seen) kitchen, a formal dining room, and maybe a less formal sitting room? Like a family room?

Many places to sit in this house.

Great sets across the board, really. The house looks great ImageImageImageImage
When Anne realizes they didn't want her, she looks like this. Image
#LainaWatchesAnne I think she also tears up - looks that way to me, at least. Anyone who says Anne isn't very upset in this scene is ignoring how heartbroken Follows looks in this scene.
#LainaWatchesAnne There's a small moment I really like here - Marilla tells Anne not to cry as it's not Anne's fault. Considering how much Anne already has on her shoulders, it's nice to have an adult finally say something like that.
#LainaWatchesAnne Otherwise, this scene goes just by the book, pretty much. And the actress playing Marilla continues to be great. She has this wry, slightly sarcastic way of speaking. Very no-nonsense. She cracks me up.
#LainaWatchesAnne Anne's room! ImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne And more of the kitchen! ImageImageImage
#LainaWatchesAnne Matthew wants her to stay, Marilla is all "I'm not suffering for company" and the dynamic is great.

Marilla goes to say goodnight to Anne and says, "Goodnight, Anne with an E" and the small indulgence is really sweet.
#LainaWatchesAnne She doesn't exactly get WHY it matters to Anne, but it does, and it doesn't hurt anyone, so why not?
#LainaWatchesAnne The next morning's scene is also a cool choice adaptation-wise - they have Mrs. Spencer come out to meet them at her house, and Mrs. Blewett walks up there. This accomplishes two things - one, pretty outdoors scenery, as it's gorgeous, and two, fewer scene cuts.
#LainaWatchesAnne Marilla's body language is great, too - she clearly doesn't like Mrs. Blewett but still has to stay polite.
#LainaWatchesAnne We find out Anne is 13 here which lines up with my earlier timeline note. This is older than she is in the book (she's only 11 when she comes to GG in the book) but I don't mind this at all.
#LainaWatchesAnne Follows plays a believable 13 for being a bit older than that in real life, and it's an age where her more fanciful moments still work. They're a little dramatic, but, like. 13 year olds can be dramatic.
#LainaWatchesAnne And, since this is a mini-series and not like a longer adaptation, it would obviously very difficult to have Follows play Anne at both 11 and 16 so it's a change that makes sense.

It's younger than they made Anne in the 1934 version which was not as well done
#LainaWatchesAnne Blewett's actress is great being unpleasant, also.

When Anne asks to stay, Marilla looks at her like this Image
#LainaWatchesAnne And conveniently for my power situation, I'm cutting this thread off here! This series is way too long to do in one thread, obviously, lol.
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8 Jan
This one should be fairly short and I've got a few minutes to kill, so how about a quick bonus #LainaWatchesAnne thread?

This one is about the mini-series' fashion choices, which is always super fun.
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The delivery guy was wearing a mask but I wasn't because I wasn't expecting anyone.

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BECAUSE OUR BUILDINGS DIDN'T HAVE POWER.
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Anne's home!

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Are y'all ready for a different sort of #LainaReadsAnne thread? Today we're going to be trying to figure out the time period that Anne of Green Gables is set in and talking about the fashion of that time.
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So I'm gonna ask y'all to be patient with the speed on this one, okay?
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First, Montgomery wrote it in 1906 so it can't be any later than that.
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Alright, it's time for our fourth and final thread on the 1934 Anne of Green Gable movie. Y'all ready? #LainaWatchesAnne
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#LainaWatchesAnne By the way, we're a bit over an hour into the movie, which is an hour and eighteen minutes long. Are you... sensing a problem here?
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Ready for our third 1934 #LainaWatchesAnne thread? Today's gonna be a doozy.
#LainaWatchesAnne The day after the slate smashing, Anne is churning butter outside by the tree bench where Diana is sitting and making I think a beaded necklace or bracelet. It's a bit hard to see.
#LainaWatchesAnne Diana says she should have told Anne that Marilla didn't like Gilbert and that it's not his fault.

Brace yourself for this one because I don't think you're ready for it.
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