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Nov 27, 2020 7 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Let’s revisit secular trends, looking at the secular bull markets of 1949-1968 & 1982-2000. We’re at the point where the long-term momentum of #stocks vs #commodities has peaked in the past. This chart shows a lot of cyclicality when it comes to financial vs real assets. 1/THREAD Image
During the 1949-1968 cycle, growth peaked against value right about now (in terms of the 10-year CAGR), while during the 1982-2000 cycle the 10-year CAGR flattened for a few years before spiking into what became the dot-com bubble in 1999-2000. 2/ Image
So is this the 1960s or the 1990s? Given that we have already experienced a parabolic out-performance phase for large-cap growth, I like the 1949-1968 analog here, in which case we are somewhere in the early 1960’s. 3/
One important distinction between the 1960’s &1990’s: The 1960’s produced a secular upturn in inflation, while the 1990’s saw no such inflection point. The growth/value trade likely depends on an upturn in #inflation from here. 4/
Here, the 10-year #inflation rate during these secular regimes. A pretty binary set of outcomes. 5/ Image
And here, the same #inflation analog but with the 5-year stocks/bonds correlation overlaid. I measure the correlation between equity returns & changes in real bond yields. 6/
Implications? If #inflation starts to structurally rise from here—a big if—in all likelihood it will flip the correlation around, from positive (#stocks and yields up) to negative (stocks up, yields down). That’s what happened in the early-to-mid 1960s. 7/END

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After the 6% drawdown since March 28, the forward P/E ratio on the S&P 500 has declined from 21.2x to 19.9x. Valuations were high, so this is good to see. Price should decline less than valuations during this correction since earnings estimates are rising 12%. Pass the baton.🧵 Image
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If the secular regime has transitioned from the Great Moderation of the past few decades to one of fiscal dominance, perhaps the most seismic change to the investing paradigm that most of us grew up in is the changing influence of bonds in a 60/40 portfolio.🧵
During the Great Moderation era (defined as disinflation and low volatility of inflation), the correlation between stocks and bonds was negative. That meant that if there was a shock to the 60 side of the portfolio, the 40 side would offer a counterbalance. /2
You can see in the chart below that the two lines tended to squiggle together from the mid-1960’s to late 1990’s, but have been squiggling in the opposite direction from the late 1990’s until 2022. /3 Image
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If the fiscal picture in the US is deteriorating per the new era of fiscal dominance, and gold is rallying sharply as a result, wouldn’t it make sense for the dollar to be declining? That’s what the chart below suggests.🧵 Image
Why is the dollar holding up so well? I think the answer is the Fed. While fiscal dominance should be pressuring the dollar, the Fed’s restrictive policy is providing a counterbalance. /2
The US budget balance in purple and the Fed’s policy stance in orange. They are exactly offsetting each other, which is something that doesn’t usually happen. The last time the Fed was getting tighter and the fiscal side was getting looser was the first half of the 1980’s. /3 Image
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Several unusual things are happening in the markets, which in my view are most likely explained through the lens of fiscal dominance. 🧵
We are all painfully aware of the $11 trillion increase in the Federal debt since the pandemic in 2020, and we also know that the Fed has been shrinking its balance sheet (and therefore stopped being the buyer of first or last resort). /2 Image
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As the chart illustrates, cyclical bull markets can be as modest as 48% (1966-1968) or as grand as 200% or more (1982-1987, 1994-1998). /2 Image
And this chart lines them all up. Over the past 100 years, the median bull market has produced a gain of 90% spanning around 30 months. By that measure there should be some life left for this cycle. /3 Image
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Based on the 1949-1968 and 1982-2000 super-cycles, we might be later in the cycle. Adding some support to that thesis is the CAPE model. The CAPE (or cyclically adjusted P/E) model holds that the prevailing 10-yr P/E ratio is a good predictor of the 10-yr forward annualized return (CAGR).🧵
By that measure, the 10-year CAGR should moderate from its peak of 16.5% in 2019 to a mere 2.6% in 2034. Those returns are not consistent with a secular bull market (quite the opposite) and therefore suggests that we are late in the game. /2 Image
I prefer to use the 5-year CAPE ratio, as five years is more in line with a typical business cycle. I also prefer to use the price-to-total-cash ratio instead of price-to-earnings, given that the share buyback machine in the US stock market has been a powerful driver of valuation and performance. /3
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