Just to remind you that Jill's name is on a paper proposing a "Reverse Ukraine" deal.
Does anyone want to know how that works?
Because it doesn't.
In the Ukraine model over time the EU and it's partner get together to agree how they will work more closely together by mutual consent.
A reverse Ukraine deal would involve an agreement that involved damaging the trade relations of both partners.
Now, the EU is not going to sign up to allow the UK to decide to unilaterally damage their trade to its neighbour.
And if it's by mutual consent, then there is never a situation when the EU says "Yeah, you can damage our trade to you, let's agree".
The Ukraine deal works because it is based on mutual advantage, and the reverse Ukraine deal wouldn't work because it is based on unilateral advantage.
The idea that in damaging one party you can get a benefit somewhere else and the other side is going to agree to it.
Effectively saying "Is it OK if we do a deal with you so we can get alignment where we get a benefit, and not have alignment where we don't?"
And now Jill is writing things suggesting the EU weren't flexible, well consider that the UK's crowning glory appears to be "The Reverse Ukraine" let's assume it's not really anything to do with flexibility.
Right now the UK government are refusing to sign up to Ukraine provisions when it's in the interest of the whole country.
And I'll say I know one of the authors and they have come out with some very good work on Brexit for the Institute for Government, but this is not an example of it.
The reverse Ukraine model is a ridiculous model and is only helpful in showing how utterly out of our depth our political class have been since 2016.
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1. Well if someone hadn’t removed the context and allowed people like Clair Fox to interpret it in the context of her beliefs, then maybe things would have gone better today. (Thread)
2. Because when I read the article you posted, from the context it was presented, I believed that it was a big admission that the push to stay in the EU led to the hardest of Brexit.
3. Then when I read through it, it was about strategic mistakes which I didn’t think are overly controversial.
Originally Harry came in with false law, and now he is arguing that we would have been held back because the EU countries agreed to take the longer route, but we didn't have to agree...
The whole argument is based around ignoring the counterfactual. These people are imbeciles.
Apart from the fact this is disingenuous because most of the response was down to a rubbish take on the regulation restrictions, which has been quietly swept under the table.
It just ignores the fact we weren't in the room when the decision was made. We don't know what the decision would have been had we been in the room.
(I may have just made up that 11 years, but it goes back to some declaration or other before 2010, and they did report that particular event objectively to be fair.)
This is my favourite from the country who have shouted "We're prepared to walk away" for the last 4 years, and I don't remember anyone calling them out and saying "Well that will be a significant miscalculation".
If the press focus on Priti over this, in a week we'll be being told "we have moved on", but if they focus on failure of the Prime minister to sack her, things might be very different.
The Prime minister wants to be seen as a Churchill, while actually just being spoilt, entitled, and lazy. He knows he is all of those things, but insists on trying to cultivate this Churchillian figure who will see us through Brexit.
1. Hello, tonight’s thread is going to be focused on the recent article by @anandMenon1 and @jillongovt about how we ended up outside the Single Market.
2. It makes various claims which have merit, and some, like the EU’s attitude to bespoke deals, which are inaccurate, but it’s biggest failing is not recognising how the media is the main actor in this.
3. At the start of the referendum the government were very clear we would have the vote and then they would look at the various options available.
(They were required to publish those options as part of the referendum act 2015).
None of this language belonged in the debate, and I cannot believe there are people in the BBC that want to close their eyes to it.
Here is a another. We have advisory referendum which means parliament can do what it likes, but apparently if you run for election to specifically do something you are accused of "Overriding democracy".