When it's all pretty grim on the Covid-19 front, here is a piece of relatively good news...

There are now fewer excess deaths in the second wave than we might have expected

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In March and April, there were regularly roughly twice the number to total excess deaths than those recorded by the government after a positive Covid-19 test

In October, November and December, there have been fewer - about 75 to 80% of the number from the daily totals

why?

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Obviously, we cannot know for sure, but here are some potential explanations

-It's a blip and excess deaths will start rising.

Unlikely, unless register offices have suddenly changed their practices

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We're testing properly now

- Almost certainly true. This , I think, explains much of the difference compared with the spring when Covid deaths were not picked up at all, especially in care homes

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Some recorded Covid-19 deaths are people who would have died anyway in the same rough period of time

- Also now almost certainly true. This means they are in the Covid stats but do not count as an excess

5/
Some deaths (flu) we would expect normally are avoided due to social distancing and better hygene

- Again, almost certainly true, so the baseline of deaths is lower (there will be other deaths where the baseline is higher - eg people not going to hospital when they should)

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The important thing is this:

The daily figures are now exagerating the deadliness of Covid-19. In the spring, they were understanting it

BUT - it is still deadly. It is still causing excess deaths.

Thankfully fewer than we might have feared

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The much less important upshot is that I have revised down my estimates by a little to take account of the new relationships.

The best estimate of UK Covid-related excess deaths since mid March is now

84,400

ENDS
NB:

This is not an issue of better treatment - that should affect all measures of deaths equally - and probably does.

The issue here concerns why the relationship between different measures of deaths is changing
NB2 - the December figures in the first chart are for only a third of the month - I should have made that clear (it was the relatioship between the bars I was examining)- the epidemic is not receeding

Apologies

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18 Dec
UPDATE: After the latest data on excess deaths and people dying in hospitals, the up to date estimate of the number of UK deaths linked to coronavirus since mid-March is

84,800

This has been a bad week for virus cases, but a good week for excess deaths

1/
Excess deaths were low in England & Wales in the latest data and also in Scotland and Northern Ireland. It might be the effects of the lockdown or it might be a changing relationship between deaths in hospitals and excess deaths.

Daily pattern is v different to first wave

2/
Sadly, with the rapid rise in cases in the past two weeks and signs of acceleration, you'd have to be reckless to think the lower levels of excess deaths will continue

ENDS
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17 Dec
Harrods and fishing - a thread

For the benefit of @christopherhope who was correct on the telly today

and Paul Stains - @GuidoFawkes - who wasn't

tl:dr Harrods is worth more to the UK economy than fishing....

... has been for a few years.

... now not even close

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes This first arose when I calculated the fact and stated clearly the underlying rationale in a 2018 column and a tweet



2/
@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes Having been true but forgotton, it came up today and then Paul Stains started to pretend it was false, and then, when I demonstrated it wasn't, to suggest my facts were mere "conjecture"

3/
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17 Dec
Maybe you should do some proper research.

As you know, it's a GVA calculation not exports

The Harrods accounts are not just the store itself, but the GVA of the concessions that operate within the building (which are estimated from the staffing cost)
Now - where your attempted putdown is really badly wrong is in a comparison of GVA with the value of fish exports.

Has it occured to you that within the £2bn of fish exports will be:
- imported fish (we process in the UK)
- value of buying, selling and transporting fish...
These are the GVA of respectively
- the food manufacturing sector
- the distribution sector
- the wholsaleing sector

plus there will be many other business services GVA in fish exports

..... and
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10 Dec
Quiz yourself whether a Covid wealth tax is a good idea (if you want to do the quiz, don't read the column till later when we'd appreciate the clicks...

,ft.com/content/e3d0a6… via @financialtimes
Simple questions: who should pay more in a wealth tax:

a) a rich young banker driving her new Lamborghini to and from her riverside penthouse; or
b) an NHS consultant convalescing after weeks on a ventilator having contracted Covid-19 trying to save lives?
How about:

a) the business owner whose motto is “you only live once” and plans for the government to look after him in retirement; or
b) the business owner who’s horrified by the idea of reliance on the state for his pension or social care?
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1 Dec
UPDATE: A cautious estimate of the number of excess UK deaths linked to coronavirus since mid march has passed a new marker and stands at

80,100

Of these 75,200 have happened and the rest are estimates bringing lagged official data up to date

1/
When measured properly, it is clear that the second wave has been far less deadly than the first.

My estimates suggest that excess deaths are now beginning to decline

2/
Why should you believe these numbers?

a) Because the updating model is proving remarkably accurate in the second wave (I'm surprised how accurate)

b) This welcome feature stems from better Covid testing, so daily hospital deaths pick up roughly all excess deaths this time

3/
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17 Nov
After today's official figures on excess all cause mortality up to 6 Nov, my estimate of the current total of excess UK deaths linked to coronavirus stands at

75,000

Of these deaths, 70,528 have already happened. The rest are estimates to bring the data up to date

1/
While all cause mortality does not tell us exactly why people died, the figures are rising slower than deaths which doctors directly attribute to Covid-19 (not much, but a little)

And they are happening in the areas with high Covid-19 caseloads.

2/
Doctors certificates and regional correlations with the disease incidence (both in the sping and now) should be enough to convince rational people that the cause is Covid-19.

To argue otherwise requires quite some contrary evidence.

3/
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