Thread: The pale winter sun which doesn't bring warmth but instead brings freezing cold (cloudy winter days are warmer than bright winter days)...In Serbia this sun is called "Zubato sunce" (Toothed Sun, Sun with teeth)...
This is the sun that causes the "frostbite", a burn like wounds which cause parts of your body to fall of...Or have to be amputated...Hence "toothed" sun which literally bites the part of your body off...
In my last thread I talked about strange toothed goats from Norse and Serbian mythology:
Now a wild Ibex goat is a pretty universal (talking about Eurasia here) symbol of winter, because its mating season, characterised by mad fights for females, takes place during the winter...
And because in Europe, the winters are cold snowy times of death, it is the death of a goat, symbol of winter, the end of winter, which is celebrated...And its rebirth, which symbolises the rebirth of nature after cold winter ends...

Interestingly in Serbian folklore, "babini jarci" (grandmother's goats) is the name for "cold stormy snowy days in March or April"...Which can turn green spring into white winter again...
By the way, in Serbian folklore, the word Baba (Grandmother) was used for Earth, Mother (Grandmother) Earth...But the word also means "Hag" and was used as the name for Frozen Winter Earth...The goddess of death...

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So "grandmother's goats" literally means cold winter like days (brrrrrr)...The same cold winter like days which can "bite your fingers, toes, nose, ears..." off...Hence scary toothed killer goats...
If you were a shepherd on your way up the mountain pastures and you got caught in one of these storms, the chances of survival were very slim...
Hence a Romanian legend about a grandmother who insulted the month of March. She did so either by badmouthing Him or by going up to the mountain with a herd of goats too early. March then borrowed frosty days from February and froze her to death...

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People in the Balkans equated "Baba", Mother Earth, which was imagined as a stone being which gives birth to all life, the goddess of birth and "Baba", Winter Earth, the goddess of death...
For instance, Shepherd's in Slovenia believed that "baba" stones (exposed bedrock) were linked to weather, water, humidity, mud, soil and fertility and pasture abundance.
Which is why they sacrificed to them during their spring ascent to the mountain pastures...And why stones are used by slavs in weather manipulation magic...

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In the Italian version of the weird Goat and Fox fairytale, the the Grandmother Goat and Grandmother fox just reinforce the fact that both Goat and Fox are animal calendar markers for winter...Both mate in winter, the time of Baba (grandmother, hag)...

Is the link between Baba (Grandmother) and winter found in Italian folklore? And is the link between Goat and winter found in Norse folklore? If not, does it meant that the root of these stories is in Slavic (Serbian) folklore?
By the way

Yin = Earth, dark, cold, wet, down...
Yang=Sun, bright, warm, dry, up...

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Both absolute Yin (freezing dark wet cold winter) and absolute Yang (roasting bright dry hot summer) are time of death...Life only flourishes between these two absolutes, Yin and Yang, Mother and Father, Earth and Sun...
One last thing...Does this mean that Thor is not god of summer rain storms, but the god of winter snow storms??? Hence his toothed goats who eat raw flesh...
As I explained in this article, the fact that Norse, Baltic and Slavic thunder gods ride goats, is one of the biggest mysteries of the European folklore. One which opens (for some an uncomfortable) question about the origins of these goat riding gods... oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com/2020/02/goat-r…

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A news article title from the last year's papers 🙂 Image
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