If testing Asymptomatics randomly (vs. repeatedly) - they are MOST likely to be found post-infectious -> EXPECT Ag to be -ve MOST of time someone is PCR +ve
The very paper @CDCgov links to that concludes rapid Ag tests do not perform well in Asymptomatics literally shows 100% sensitivity for culture +ve samples in Asymptomatics
Massive failure to not emphasize this for asymptomatic screening.
In these studies we MUST DEFINE WHY WE ARE TESTING.
This is common sense.
If the authors had defined the goal of their testing - they would have recognized the rapid Ag test performed very well - actually 100% in their study.
Instead, they got lost and concluded it failed.
NOTE: This is from 2021! Not 2020. Sorry about any confusion it might cause.
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The Rapid tests did a very good job at detecting infected people who were likely to still be contagious. The rapid antigen tests do not and are not meant to detect ppl who are No longer contagious. But PCR does.
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This 🧵 is on SPECIFICITY or the issues of False POSITIVES and rapid antigen tests.
Many people are concerned that these fast, inexpensive tests cause too many false positives and will overload PCR labs...
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Rapid antigen tests can have 98%-99.9% specificity meaning between 0.1% and 2% of tests run might be falsely positive.
If prevalence is low, even a 99.9% specificity could mean many of the positive tests are falsely positive.
But w rapid tests, there are rapid solutions!
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Many ppl instinctively worry that a false positive will mean an erroneous 10 day isolation and that huge numbers of people are going to require laboratory based PCR confirmation tests and this will overload the system.
But, Unlike antibiotics, the comparison has to consider even greater “only partial immunity” among those who have had no vaccine by the time they get infected.
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@apoorva_nyc@TakeWeightOffMD The immune response is going to develop whether you’ve been vaccinated or not. If you’ve had no vaccine, then there is going to be much more “only partial immunity” that the virus gets to play around with and “test out”
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@apoorva_nyc@TakeWeightOffMD We have to very careful to not forget what the baseline is here. W antibiotics, the Bacteria is only exposed to a partial dose if youre on antibiotics. With immunity, the virus is exposed to a partial dose whenever you’re not already protected while immunity builds up.
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In the very same study that concludes rapid Ag tests do not work in asymptomatic people, the authors failed to state the rapid Ag tests SUCCESSFULLY CAUGHT 100% of ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE who had likely contagious virus.
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Rapid paper strip tests *could* be in everyone’s home today to curb spread immediately
Write to your congress ppl and demand they be a priority
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We make it easy for you to do this and have collected signatures from leading scientists requesting congress act on these - Set aside funds that amount to <1% of the most recent stimulus bill to get these tests to everyone, quickly and for months.
FDA / others think the populous is not capable of having simple tests at home & making responsible decisions
This is insane - plus we have expensive over the counter tests that require much technology - so I guess FDA feels the wealthy can use their own data but poor cannot. BS!
Many scientists have been frustrated that UK extended time between vaccine doses to ~12 weeks - in effort to get as many people as possible at least a single dose.
This makes sense for optimizing public health. But for optimizing individual protection it is controversial.
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One scientist in the article said:
“I wouldn't want to be sitting around for 12 weeks waiting for the second dose with the partially protective vaccine,”
Under normal optimal circumstances, this opinion might be the right opinion, but In midst of a pandemic, it is faulty..
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Importantly: UK is leading the way in taking a bold public health approach (vs individual health) to getting the population vaccinated - Prioritizing distribution of 1 dose & delaying dose 2 up to 12 weeks.
This bold move is going to cause ppl to scrutinize the decision. But in this pandemic, too few governments have acted swiftly to limit spread - bc quick action sometimes means imperfect data.
Here, robust data isn’t likely available for a 12 week delay for dose 2
But...
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This was a good decision that
a) need not be permanent and suggests the UKG is willing to think with agility here and
b) likely will be the better overall public health approach rather than letting doses sit in freezers while others die and
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