Judge Harvey: This is a threshold issue.
AUSA: Interstate threats can constitute a crime of violence.
Meredith's defense lawyer: The three cases they cite are inapposite. The 2013 case is no longer applicable after Supreme Court decisions in 2019.
Judge Harvey: Let me address the threshold issue. I'll skip to the conclusion. I'm going to rule for the government. But I'd like to make a record.
Judge: What the defendant is charged will must fall into one of the 3142(f) factors. So the government has to assert a crime of violence under the Bail Reform Act. It's defined as an offense using the threat of physical force. [more legalese coming]
Judge: ... Section 875(c) criminalizes interstate communication of a threat of violence or to kidnap.
[Citing cases on Westlaw, privatization of legal precedents]
Judge: Does the threat to kidnap qualify as a crime of violence? Some cases say no, puzzling laymen
Judge: A person could be kidnapped through trickery. The DC Circuit has not addressed that. The 5th has, & 8th Circuit in Roth (2020). But this is not a kidnapping case - it's a threat case. Every threat case involves violence.
[Without this, Meredith walks out]
Judge: Kidnapping by trickery scenario wouldn't happen in the real world. I conclude that the communicated threat is a crime of violence, & hence detention eligible. Now, let's hear the government on the four factors.
Defense: I still don't have financial affidavit
Judge: File it by close of business tomorrow.
Defense: I also have another status conference at 3:45 pm.
Judge says tell other judge to wait. Now, the issue of confidential health issues arises. They want a break-out room.
[This could have been done in writing]
Now they are arranging to take this public proceeding private, or sealed, apparently about Meredith's medical issues that militate for release.
"You are now in a break-out session."
"You are now in the main session."
Then, "You are now in a break-out session."
While awaiting return of judge and lawyers (and Meredith?) note that the memo for release, 10 pages, didn't have anything redacted. This allegedly confidential medical info arguing for release could have been put in it writing, rather than this "break out" ...
Maybe it goes without saying, but is this shielded "break out" session being transcribed by a court reporter, so that the sealing could be meaningfully challenged? Or one is supposed to reply on the Magistrate Judge to decide to unseal. But is that reviewable?
Anyway, "you are back in the main session."
Judge: OK government, go right ahead.
AUSA: There are no condition that will assure the community's safety, and return. He remained in DC and made multiple threats, including to Nancy Pelosi and the DC mayor...
AUSA: This misogynistic rhetoric... He sent a text message he was headed to DC for target practice. He said he took steps how to accomplish his goal, the best way to assault the city. He relished carnage. He said the mayor was stupid for calling it terrorism
AUSA: There are text he wanted to stay a day later to, quote, F*ck with the Commies. He took steps to see these threats through. They are not protected by the First Amendment. He told officers he knew he had crossed the line. He booked a hotel room.
AUSA: He had an automatic rifle used by the Israeli military. He went so far as to apply duct tape to the magazine to more quickly fire bullets. He arrived day late --
Judge: That's the irony, isn't it? Why wasn't he hear on the 6th?
AUSA: His car broke down.
AUSA: Even late, he tried to accomplish his nihilistic goals. This violent rhetoric, it was fortunately discovered before it went further. The texts speak for themselves. He attended Governor Kemp's rally - ok, it is an open carry state, but...
AUSA: He's acknowledged drug use, on the night of the offense. That day, prior to this offense, along the same time, at 3 pm he assaults a resident of the city, in a road rage issue. [That is not to be found, at least not yet, on the DC Court's website]
AUSA: That just goes to show the mental state that he was in. The fourth factor, danger to the community, our final point is this is someone who is under the spell of the Q-Anon... He won't follow any conditions of release.
AUSA: He follows that ideological conspiracy theory movement.
Judge: Defense?
Defense: He's a father of two. The text messages were in jest, to friends, and not posted online. An individual said, Im' worried about you. He replied, LOL I'm just having fun.
Defense: He'd came to DC in November for a rally. It was a lot of fun. People were friendly. This time, when they came to his hotel room, he was friendly, he answered questions without an attorney present. He is remorseful.
Defense: The government's own evidence say that as he got close to DC he released he couldn't have guns in his car, only in the trailer. We should be able to see what they are relying on. We don't know anything about the head-butting.
Defense: He participates heavily in his church, traveled to other countries to build homes. He had an amicable divorce. His character reference [not in the docket?] says he's no troublemaker, just a patriot. She states she would help with a curfew & removing guns
Defense: He was in his room, resting, when the authorities found him. We look at the community, in terms of danger, where he resides. He has no criminal history. He has ties in the North Carolina community.
Judge: Who is the custodian?
Defense: Ms Jeffords [ph]
Defense: He would refrain from the use of alcohol. He could turn over his passport.
[Note that this judge while releasing Leffingwell has detained Lonnie Coffman...]
Pre-Trial: There are not conditions to release him and keep community safe.
AUSA: He said he'd like to use the armor-piercing bullets to shoot the mayor of DC. He was texting about his weapons. That is was in jest is undercut by statements to FBI. He was asked if social media posts were for reaction or he believe. He said, a bit of both
AUSA: That he'd have access to social media could make worse the things happening in his head.. especially for the next couple of weeks.
Judge: I am going to grant request to detain Mr. Meredith.
Judge: We get our fair share of these threat cases in DC. But I conclude this was a true threat. I don't remember any more concerning threats case. Threats to the mayor and Speaker of the House, of running them over. You said, "3 1/2 hours from target practice"
Judge: Often people make threats from their basement. You took steps to come here. He drove from Colorado and brought with you the means to make good on your threats. The fire power in the vehicle: 9mm, a telescopic scope, 320 armor piercing rounds...
Judge: The threats were found on your cell phone. Exchanged with others the government could call as witnesses. The guns were in a truck behind your vehicle. You admitted that. It's a strong case, though that'd be up to a jury. But the factor weighs for detention
Judge: I do not see the point of sending you back to Colorado or North Carolina, even with GPS, since you traveled to get here. GPS is imperfect. We don't have room for error when it comes to you. I have no role in the Superior Court case. Here, Jan 28 at 3 pm
OK - now Inner City Press will live tweet John Earle Sullivan's court hearing in Federal Court in Utah on DDC arrest warrant for Jan 6 - we've covered Cleve Meredith, Florea, Leffingwell, now Sullivan thread below; #insurrectionBluessoundcloud.com/innercitypress…
Magistrate Judge Daphne A. Oberg is presiding.
Sullivan appears by Zoom from holding cell in Utah jail. He has two retained (paid) lawyers. There are 2 AUSAs - from Utah and DDC.
"We are here on a Rule 5 proceeding."
Judge: "You have been charged by Complaint in Washington DC. You have a right to a lawyer."
He has Mary Corporan, who says she's only for Utah proceeding at this point. Also, Jonathan Nish.
OK - now Columbia U "dirty doc" Hadden has a proceeding @sdnylive to see if he gets a free / publicly funded lawyers. Inner City Press has been covering the case innercitypress.com/sdny11straussh… and will live tweet - thread
Lawyer Isabelle Kirshner: We represented Mr. Hadden in the state case, there were five or so victims. If he had the fee we would have sought, we would have represented him. Two lawyers, a paralegal and an associate. There could be motion practice.
Magistrate Judge Ona T. Wang: What might a partial appointment look like?
AUSA Jessica Lonergan: He have not seen the detailed financial information.
[Apparently, Hadden was allowed to speak with three Criminal Justice Act lawyers and choose - hmm...]
OK - now @sdnylive the sentencing for money laundering of Zalmund Zirkind. He had asked to have the whole proceeding sealed; still, many of the sentencing submissions are redacted. Inner City Press has covered innercitypress.com/sdny23acotebom… and will live tweet - thread
Judge Cote: There is agreement that the sentencing guideline starts at 135 months. Probation recommends 60 months. The defendant wants probation, citing devotion to his family and friends. And other efforts he had made since his arrest... His brother got 4 years
AUSA: He watched his brother mount an unsuccessful defense, but continued to engage in the conduct. It shows his risk appetite. It is proof that imprisonment is necessary.
OK - now in EDNY sentencing of Azizjon Rakhmatov, who pleaded guilty to conspiring to provide material support to ISIS - from Connecticut, he funded trip to #Syria. Now Judge William F. Kuntz presiding. Inner City Press will live tweet - thread
Judge Kuntz: Mr. Rakhmatov, are you ready to go forward today?
Rakhmatov: Yes.
Judge Kuntz: There is a statutory maximum of 15 years, no minimum, do you understand?
Rakhmatov: Yes.
Judge Kuntz: There is offense level of 37. The defendant does not agree - says disregard Guideline sections, argues they are unconstitutional. Wants offense level of 26.
[Inner City Press: expect an appeal on this, depending on what sentence is imposed.]
Now in #EDNY court, Eduard Florea is charged with having 1000 rounds of rifle ammo, 2000 shotgun rounds, 75 military knives, 2 hatchets and 2... swords. AUSA says he used Parler account about Jan 6. Inner City Press will live tweet - thread
AUSA is quoting Florea's comments / threats about Senator elect Warnock. "The time for peace and stability is over. Three cars of armed patriots on way from NY to DC."
AUSA: He applied to join the Proud Boys. He had not attended the requisite number of meetings. But he went and vandalized a church in DC in December.
EDNY Magistrate Judge Sanket Bulsara: When was that?
AUSA: December 12.
Presiding is SDNY Magistrate Judge Judith C. McCarthy. "Mister Pepe, can you hear and see me?"
Yes.
AUSA: This is a 5(c)(3) proceeding on a DDC complaint. Mr. Pepe has been arrested.
Judge: Any ID hearing?
Defense lawyer: No, he'll waive it.
Judge: This is not a trial, Mr. Pepe. This is an initial proceeding, on the arrest warrant signed on January 11.
William Joseph Pepe is 31 years old. Some college. No alcohol in the last 24 hours.