A minute ago, we saw shocking, SHOCKING video of a maskless grocery story in Naples, FL
Naples is in Collier County. I compared deaths there to Imperial County, CA with one of the earliest mask mandates in the country
Yeah, Imperial has done way, way worse
We literally saw video evidence that mask compliance is extremely bad in Collier. So they must have had more cases, right? I mean, Imperial will fine you up to $1,000, charge a misdemeanor and up to 90 days in jail if you don’t comply
Nope. Imperial is way way worse there too.
Now, you may be saying, well I assume Imperial is bigger and more dense, because that’s ALWAYS why numbers are worse, right?
Nope. Collier is 187 per square mile, Imperial is 34.
Collier is more than 5x the density of Imperial County. So that doesn’t work.
You might also say, well Collier might have a younger population, that’s a big influence on outcomes, right?
Oh wait, turns out Collier’s median age is 50.8(!!!) And Imperial’s is 32.4. Collier’s median age is 57% higher than Imperial
And yet Imperial has done so, so much worse
So here we have two counties, one with an early mandate when cases & deaths were very low, threatening their citizens with huge fines & literally jail time
The other county has people openly not complying. That county is older, and 5x the density. And their results are better.
Not just better, MUCH better.
How could this happen? The science on masks working is CRYSTAL CLEAR. Shepard Smith told me! It’s crystal clear! The CDC Director said so! And he has never been wrong!
Oh well. Who cares right? Masks work. Because they work.
Oh and if you think I’m kidding about the punishment in Imperial County, I am most definitely not kidding.
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Ok so I already did a thread on today’s CDC nonsense, but it's even worse than I thought
The CA counties used in the study, supposedly proof of statewide mask mandates working, are Alameda, Contra Costa & SF
Their mandates were all in effect by 4/22. State wasn’t until 6/18
So when did they start counting data from these counties? Who knows! Every site has different starting periods.
But it makes absolutely no sense to use only three sites from a state that all had mandates months earlier, and pretend like the STATEWIDE mandate made any difference
Obviously, they also, of course, got to ignore the fall surge, which, you know, seems relevant.
Somehow, the mask mandates also worked for one specific age group! That’s right! Over 65? No statistically significant difference. Under 40? Also no difference
But at least 40-64, must have been a big success, right?
Nope, 5.5% decrease in growth rate. That’s their claim. 5.5%
Let’s keep going. How about the limitations?
Well, no biggie, it didn’t capture anyone under 18, didn’t control for some policies that might also effect growth rates, only captured COVID-NET states, and most importantly didn’t look at local mandates, only state ones!
So @Cleavon_MD, in response to the video from Naples, said we should “let ‘em die” for not wearing masks
He’s a doctor in Yuma, AZ, where presumably they wear masks out of fear of not receiving treatment
So why has Yuma had so many more Covid deaths per million than Naples?
Beyond the threats of attention seeking, self-promoting Doctors, Yuma also will threaten you with up to 6 months in jail and a $2500 fine if you’re caught twice without one
We know that Naples is clearly not enforcing their mandate, and DeSantis specifically said no fines
Yuma is also significantly less dense, 35.5 per square mile vs. 187. Collier’s much older too, 50.8 vs. 34.6.
Yuma’s cumulative deaths per million is 214% higher.
At Yuma’s peak on 1/16, the 14-day avg was 426% higher than Collier.
I know that the term misinformation is unbelievably overused at this point, but this is legitimately misinformation.
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anything that California did made any difference at all. This story is indefensible and dangerously misleading.
Hospitalizations in Arizona and California peaked at nearly the exact same time. Arizona never banned outdoor dining or had another stay at home order.
And crucially, in the period (12/20-1/6) where CA’s interventions would make a supposed difference, there was none.
Saying that the measures in California worked is just an outright lie. I would say that it’s incomprehensible that a supposedly reputable newspaper would publish this nonsense, but it’s the modern media, so…it actually makes perfect sense they would publish this nonsense