Interesting on censuses, biological data, social norms and shame ....

One of the questions in the 1971 census is the number of children a woman has had

But it only asked about children born in marriage
Presumably at the time it was felt to be too sensitive to ask about children born outside of marriage - who might have been adopted, brought up within the wider family etc... certainly not something to talk about on the doorstep.
Transsexuality used to be a bit like this - something shameful, not to be talked about, with the idea that a person would want to live 'in stealth'.

But social norms - on children borne outside of wedlock, and gender non-conformity change
In 2021 the @ONS should make clear that the question about sex is a straightforward one.

Their is a separate question on gender identity for those who wish to answer.

Being transsexual or transgender is nothing to be ashamed of.

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19 Feb
. @legalfeminist did a good write up of @BluskyeAllison case against Garden Court and Stonewall and what came out in the prehearing.

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/02/15/do-…
Stonewall staff and trans advisory group sent emails characterised by the judge as a “threat” of reputational damage to Garden Court, including that for Garden Court to continue to support Allison “puts us in a difficult position with yourselves”
We trust you will “would do what is right and stand in solidarity with trans people” and take disciplinary action against Allison or, as summarised by her barrister, face the reputational consequences.
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18 Feb
Old Census forms....

One of the ideas that is getting bandied around is that "sex" has always been self identified on the census.

This is codswallop...

And as the ONS say it is important to maintain comparability over time

census.ukdataservice.ac.uk/use-data/censu…
One of the things in census design is also making sure that relationships between the questions are consistent

- with the modern census they use computer power to weed out errors like people who listed as under 16 and in full time work , or women giving birth over 65 etc...
The census asks about relationships between people in the household

In 1971 they put this as the "Head" of the household (i.e. the husband/father if their was one) and the wife.
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16 Feb
If you liked the #ONSValentines you can catch up wth them here!

@Census2021 #Census2021 @ONS

Don't stop there.

Make sure ONS hear that women count

#sexmatters

juicer.io/onsvalentines?… Image
Contact your MP writetothem.com

Ask them to read Sex and the Census: its in their postbag

thepoliticalerasureofsex.org

by @janeclarejones and @lnmackenzie1 Image
...@Womans_Place_UK @ALLIANCELGB @Transgendertrd @SexMattersOrg and a host of other grassroots orgs are going to give guidance on sending a message to the ONS on census night shorturl.at/gptJ8 Image
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16 Feb
Barraker on Mumsnet gets to the heart of what this compelled speech is all about

Couching words in euphemisms and lies is rendering it impossible to cut to the truth.

mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_ri…
Men are representing women
Men are taking womens places
Men are dictating language women can use
Men are breaching womens boundaries.
Men are rewriting rules for what women may & may not do

And yet we are forbidden from pointing to a single man doing this & stating "He is a man"
And in response to one declaring "we all need to listen to each other to understand how we can make progress together"
Read 4 tweets
15 Feb
. @ONS will say in the online guidance "answer what is on legal documents" (eg passport - this is self ID).

Brochure goes even further "What if I do not identity with census options?"

"It's up to you to decide how you would like to answer each question" 😲

@fairplaywomen
This is from a brochure called "your questions answered"

census.gov.uk/assets/Your-Qu…
This is the Code of Conduct on Statistics that @ONS is covered by (plus the Nolan Principles on standards in public life)

code.statisticsauthority.gov.uk
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15 Feb
Best wishes the Helen Pluckrose's new venture. But her analysis of my case is simplistic and wrong

(And it's rude to block people and then talk about them)
My case is not about the "right to believe"

Your right to hold beliefs (Art 9 of HRA) is an absolute right which can’t be interfered with by the state.

You don't need to assert this right specifically for different "allowed" beliefs (that would be authoritarian)
My case is about being discriminated against at work because of my belief.

I didn't lose my case "because my views were gender critical". We will argue in the appeal that I lost because the law was not applied correctly.
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