This exchange is pretty infuriating. But it's worth reading to understand how a lot of conservative white men view the world. Please don't include me in replies to Jeff. I'm done for the day.
Jeff is actively deleting replies now. Seems he doesn't want people to know how he really feels about this stuff. But I do want to surface this particular exchange he had with @karlitaliliana. This is how white conservatives respond when asked to grapple with racism. Screenshot of tweets between Jeff and Karla. Karla talks abo
Sorry. Here's a better screenshot.
You'll notice a few things about Jeff's response.

1) He says the guy needs his "butt kicked". But how is that supposed to happen? PoC can't get away with being up white men. Karla's father would've been jailed, beaten, and possibly killed by police.
2) Jeff says that's "absolutely horrible". As though what she's describing is some unexpected anomaly. Rather than the dominant culture in this country for the vast majority of it's history.
3) Jeff compares this overt racism to some abuse he personally suffered. He effectively erases the racial aspect of it and chalks it up to "a jacked up world". I would bet money that Jeff is a "don't play the race card" person.
4) Jeff concludes with "your dad sounds amazing". Because he existed in a racist and abusive situation and survived. In Jeff's world, that's a win. He doesn't address the racism at all. Nor the physical and mental abuse. Nor the injustice. That's just "how it is".
White conservatives believe deeply that we can't have any better than this. That is the challenge we face. Short of a "magic button", they have a fervent, even fanatical belief that this is all there is. But they are the ones fighting for that to stay true. Screenshot of tweets between Karla and Jeff. Karla asks if h
@NCSwanson Thank you for the exchange. I appreciated you answering my questions directly so I didn't misunderstand you're intent. It's unfortunate that you're closing to delete must of it now though. Anyway, here are some of my takeaways.

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No offense to Robert, but this is pure fiction. America has never had jobs at profit-driven companies that were "meant for teens". That's something we convince ourselves of to justify the fact that they're shit jobs with low pay. Because we think kids deserve that but not adults.
Next comes the trope about forcing Teens to do shit jobs to "build character". All of this is part of a fiction that is meant to a) provide cheap labor to multi-billion dollar companies and b) shame adults who are forced to take these jobs into accepting lower pay.
There are 10 million plus people out of work right now. But we're gonna sit here and say a company like Uber is supposed to be using teen drivers? McDonald's employs 200K people today. That has gone *down* in recent years. It makes no sense.
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I see the conversation today is “we shouldn’t celebrate Limbaugh’s” death. I can’t help but hear it as “white people should experience no consequences after an entire life spent harming people.”

Y’all didn’t do anything about him when he was alive, but now you got a problem? FOH
This has nothing to do with Limbaugh. It’s entirely a cultural taboo against speaking ill of the dead. There are a lot of people who have been conditioned to believe that comes back on you in some way. It doesn’t. The only consequence is other humans giving you a hard time.
I support everyone who is feeling even a small measure of release today as a person who spent *decades* actively trying to make their lives harder and more miserable is no longer able to do so. And fuck anybody who tells you that you shouldn’t be happy about it.
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Did y'all know that a lot of white people don't have the cultural concept of "real talk"? You know where you stop saying the diplomatic thing and tell people what's really going on. They just don't have it. You try to have a moment of "real talk" and they freak the fuck out.
It's one of the things that makes it difficult for PoC, and Black people especially, to form real trust relationships with white people. Y'all don't know what's going on because no one tells you. And no one tells you because you can't actually handle the truth.
I've come to understand that white people have their own seemingly convoluted way that they decide what's going on and what to do about it. I have a really hard time navigating those rituals. I think a lot of us do. And it damages our ability to be successful in white spaces.
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This went pretty well. Thanks again to everyone who participated. Also huge thanks to @wwitzel3 who volunteered to take notes. I'm working with them to curate a bit, and then we'll share.

Let's do a quick debrief again.
Similarly to last time, we talked about for about an hour and 45 minutes before officially closing out the discussion. I didn't track how big the room got, but bigger than last time. Maybe 40+ people at the largest? Good crowd.
It felt a little tougher to moderate the room and rotate participants through. I think that's largely because I was doing it on my own this time. Some folks ended up waiting for quite a while before getting to share. I don't love that, and I think it's a common problem on CH.
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Let's talk about something else. I need to get ready for this, but I'm being lazy and burning daylight. Let's set some details again.
I want to continue the frontend discussion. Specifically I want to talk about "state management". It's phrase that gets used a lot. I think it's the source of a lot of complexity in frontend today. What's the right framing of a question around that?
Let's do 5pm Pacific time again. Nobody suggested big changes to the format, so I'm going to do it the same way and maybe we'll learn some more. I'm also open to a volunteer to do detailed note taking.
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Are we gonna talk about how people also do this to their managers when they're about to quit? No? Okay nevermind then.
It's not ignoring anything. A power dynamic doesn't mean your manager is not a person. Nor does it mean they are unaffected by your unexpected departure. Just say you don't give a shit about managers. It's okay.
Y'all: I've had so many different managers. They keep leaving.

Also y'all: Fuck how my manager feels!
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