@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 Apparently, it happens. I have been such things happen with at least one clinician in the UK. Told by a respected clinician/ academic. Maybe to not that extreme.
Yet, it is the extreme end of argument that mental disorders are needed as they help persons.
Yet, it is the extreme end of argument that mental disorders are needed as they help persons.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 It can be considered the logical extent of using mental disorders, to assist persons (& it does not even need to help those diagnosed with them).
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 The other end of debate around using mental disorders is that they need standardised behaviour profiles & validated tools.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 PDA tends to be at the "it helps people" end of the debate. One of the reasons PDA is controversial is that it lacks a standardised behaviour profile & validated tools. Some like @Allison66746425 contest PDA technically cannot be diagnosed due that.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 If you want proof PDA is at the "non-scientific" end of this debate & practice. Quote by Christie. From slide 19, here :
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That quote is often used in Christie's conference talks.
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That quote is often used in Christie's conference talks.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 Goldberg (2013)
"… both ICD and DSM focus more on the reliability than the validity of the disorders they describe…
"… both ICD and DSM focus more on the reliability than the validity of the disorders they describe…
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 no iteration of either DSM or ICD has acknowledged the fundamental distinction between researchers and practioners…who uses diagnostic classifications and for what purpose?"
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 What that quote means is that a mental disorder (social construct)/ dx category can be used on any population group/ demographic, if a particular stakeholder group thinks said dx entity benefits someone.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 From what I can tell that is why Christie mentions it in his talks, as it is justification for using PDA in clinical practice despite it lacking relevant evidence, agreed behavioural profile & validated tools.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 As I point out here:
Said quote by Christie is also applicable to using PDA on non-autistic persons... Which he I doubt he has even considered as he views PDA to be a rate autism subtype (from 2019 NAS PDA conference).
Said quote by Christie is also applicable to using PDA on non-autistic persons... Which he I doubt he has even considered as he views PDA to be a rate autism subtype (from 2019 NAS PDA conference).
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 *rare autism subtype*
How PDA helps people in under Christie's talks/ scholarship is that PDA has specific strategies which are different to autism one's & provides a better understanding for person's behaviours/ features than other dx categories.
How PDA helps people in under Christie's talks/ scholarship is that PDA has specific strategies which are different to autism one's & provides a better understanding for person's behaviours/ features than other dx categories.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 I discuss such things (nature & purpose of mental disorders) in a submitted essay on PDA being a mental disorder. The feedback will be interesting.
@tinkerbellbites @milton_damian @Allison66746425 @threadreaderapp please could you unroll?
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