This will be a multi-post thread here with a question at the end.
Not including the short-lived downturn in Mar, the last 2 crashes we had in the market were in 2000 (dot com) and 2007 (housing/fncl.)
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2) ... below, you can see how long it took.
Both of those are on many levels quite different to where we are now, but also in some ways similar (at least the euphoric trading that is happening.)
I'd say 90% of the stocks I see discussed here are growth stocks that ...
3) ... would fall under Nasdaq'ish type companies.
In May 2000, the Nasdaq crashed hard, & took 15 YEARS until it reached its previous all-time highs (AH.) In fact, it was so long, that it skipped right over the 2nd crash, which was the 2008 financial/housing ...
4) crisis. If we look at just that one, it crashed in late 2007, and it took until the start of 2011 before it caught back to the 2007 AH, and another 4 years before it caught back up to the AH of 2000.
The consensus for now that ...
5) ... I see a lot (and I am in this group) is to hold during these dips and even crashes, and if you have great companies, 3 to 5 years from now you'll be great.
But looking at the historical data, tech stocks, when they crash hard, take a very long time ...
6) ...to recover. In 2000, it took forever because companies were soooo over valued.
In the past year, we've seen almost every major tech stock go up at least 100%. And many of them way more than that.
7) First, you have stellar 1 year growth from the giants, FAANG:
$FB 34%
$AMZN 57%
$AAPL 73%
$NFLX 49%
$GOOG 47%
8) And then here's FinTwits favs (and this is with the recent brutal week we've had)
9) ...top of my head based on what I see a lot of posts on. Bio stocks have gone up even higher. And penny stocks and the spac market, that's for a different thread.
I haven't seen these kinds of annual gains since 2000...
10) ...And it took 15 years to recover from that. Certainly, nobody wants to wait over a decade to recover.
$PINS just came out with stellar earnings. Are they 335% better than last year?
11) Were all of these stocks way undervalued and now they are priced right? Or has the euphoria and fact that everybody is investing causes valuations to blow up to a point, where a big crash would make it difficult to recover to AH's.
12) So my question to all of you (and you know I'm bullish), is why would an invest-and-hold strategy work today when the big crash comes (and it will at some point) when previously it has taken 15 years to correct? Why is this time different?
13) I'd love it if we can keep this conversation intelligent and focused.
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What about the extensive use of margin/credit by I think almost everyone due to cheap rates? The risk of a major domino effect. I myself have an 8 figure LOC I can use.
Tesla's price may seem out of whack today. The P/E Ratio is insane, right?
But Amazon had similar P/E ratios back in 2014 and 3X higher in 2012. Look at where $AMZN is today.
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$TSLA is my #1 stock because I am looking 5+ years out from today and basing my investment on that. Many people aren't doing that. Many people are looking at current or trailing earnings and comparing them to other vehicle makers.
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And yes, I do fully expect there to be some major price pullback -- maybe even a short 30 to 50% drop in $TSLA price at some point, but over the long run, I think it goes way up.
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... an additional 7500 shares this morning in pre-trading @$20/share...
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I missed the +217% one year run up in 2020. But as of today, I'm up about 27% for a 2 month hold so far.
Here's my extensive 25-post due diligence on #ROKU.
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2. First, stop thinking of $ROKU as a hardware company.
STOP!
They started that way, but have shifted into a much more lucrative space - their 'Platform.'
More on that shortly.
Think of them as having part of their biz as hardware, but most of it as their Platform.
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I get it. People don't yet realize what ROKU offers. But they will. Just like people didn't understand other tech at the start (Paypal, Amazon, Netflix, etc.)