@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett This would be an excellent line to explore. I think you are spot-on.
One of my aphorisms is
"You cannot see what you are not looking at"
W. the implication that if your axiomatic framework does not allow you to see a thing, you simply - not only will not - but cannot.
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 2/ The "wisdom level" ponder to this point is to wonder about the quality of the "Guardians" who are charged with being wise for the country/system - it is at root their only job. If you are constitutionally incapacitated from not only understanding, but even acknowledging
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 3/ reality....What kind of "Guardian" are you?.
We have our answer shoved in our face daily. Today's idiocy is this diversion nonsense around Dr Suess. Tomorrow it will be something else.
It occurs, having come this far, that there is some group psychosis in play. I don't
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 4/ know the clinical terms, but the syndrome is of a person, anyone, whose system of understanding the world is so overwhelmed w facts & events that do not have a place in their "World View", that they break down into various levels of infantilization. Making simple what is
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 5/ complex, until it is reduced to a level that can be compreheneded.
Somewhere in this process reality tips into religion. And what might have once been questions, wondering what is, becomes dogma, no more questions, here are the answers to what the world is.
Complexity
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 6/ Complexity becomes a bad word. As you say, it has no place in the framework, and therefore, by the definitions and precepts of the group/tribe/religion, it is to be shunned. Or destroyed.
In times past they burned heritics on much the same model.
Nothing is allowed to
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 7/ contradict the dogma. If there is enough power in those who hold the dogma, then you get excommunicated.
In our times L.Cheney experienced this, as she challenged the groupthink basis of the Republican Party. Along w the others.
I think you can lay this framework against
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 8/ many of the 'current events' and see the consequences work themselves out.
At root then, there is a dreadful fear, more august & terrifying than almost anything... That your god is not, and your beliefs have been shredded. Unable to grapple with reality.
It starts wars.
@wfrolik@Mikel_Jollett 9/ Which may be a fair description, in terms of deep, seismic and systemic Cause & Effect of our condition not only nationally, but even globally.
And every day the headlines parade today's examples of the syndrome.
Now What?
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What to make of this moment?
This is the woman who made bank on bilking the Tr faithful, who so desperately want something, they do not know quite what it is, so they call it god & god's calling.
But she is a false prophetess, her 'prophesies' & were lies. She is to be shunned.
What is sad is it works.
Not the 'angels released from Africa' (and why would they be released on her word? And why did they need to come from Africa?) But upon the desperate & trembling congregation.
What is remarkable in this new religion is how paltry is its object of worship. More strange: he cares nothing for them, not one moment longer than they are useful.
Yet this amorphous dread they feel, he congeals into tangible forms upon which they can unleash their 2min hate.
To the degree this is true, and it certainly is for this crowd, it bodes well, w some major potential problems: 1. Tr is weak, fragile. No longer a darling, he has some strong headwinds. An egoist is not a sufficient base for a long-term movement. 2. Others have written well on
potential of the GOP splitting. That would be good for the country. IMO we need a true two party system. But one devoted fundamentally to the core values & foundational propositions of the country. As it is it is anything but. It is not an exaggeration to think a deep
unreconcilable split is in the offing if certain trajectories do not change. One of the concise statements of the syndrome is Molly Ivans identifying one of the core goals of Bush, but by extension the GOP:
They do not wish to govern, but to rule.
We cannot wait for some relative of one of our "guardians" to have a personal crisis before they see how Health Care needs to be addressed. And how flawed the GOP anti-solutions are.
Or, like Cheney, to recognize the inanity/flaw of GOP stance on gays, because of his daughter.
We are governed by fiat, & personal proclivities & as opposed to wisdom & insight into real problems, with real ideas, that address not politician's need [lust] for power but the country's need for systemic solutions.
&etc
It is so obvious, yet so hard, because of this failure.
So much of that so utterly unnecessary.
More than just the normal sorrows of life, the suffering inflicted on the country (& world) due to such illicit use of power, implementing policies & programs that incubate this suffering.
@tommy_pane Here is the deal T.
It gives me no pleasure to keep at you at a fundamental level. I have tried to engage you many ways.
But at root, you ignore so much in order to maintain your equilibrium. & in fact you have to. I get it.
These are not policy issues we are debating.
@tommy_pane Your insane ability to ask the wrong next question is, at an analytical level, a curiosity.
And etc.
This one about pedophiles is a perfect example... Follow the thread.
We have gone from your self equivalence w the Q people, and that superior level of crazy...worked through
@tommy_pane 3/ your various attempts to maintain some weird position, which remains occluded. Now, having been blocked at the level of "you don't really care, why not"... which is a stupid line for you to take, in general, and specifically w me. Now you are on to Hollywood and etc..
This vote is not a defeat. It is a perfect opportunity to highlight in unambiguous terms that the Republican Party is devoted not to the country,America and its interests, but they are in service to A Con. A Lie. And a Liar.
If we cannot make this case, then yes the game is over.
The Republicans overreached. It is imperative to recognize they were not voting *for Trump* they voted for their survival as a party.
With sharp decisive strategic moves this can be turned into a rout. This is Napoleon attacking Russia in the winter.
The defeat is in the move.
Let’s not do the standard democratic move and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
There are so many metaphors and examples in analogies to be brought to bear. This is not the time to admit defeat.
That would be to give them the victory.